Message from @Grenade123

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2018-07-03 00:06:11 UTC  

thats automation

2018-07-03 00:06:19 UTC  

Where human production skills are waylaid by systems that do it all for us.

2018-07-03 00:06:30 UTC  

we already have that Arch, its called a computer

2018-07-03 00:06:49 UTC  

Naah, that still requires user input.

2018-07-03 00:06:55 UTC  

yeah

2018-07-03 00:06:58 UTC  

I know what Arch is getting at.

2018-07-03 00:07:31 UTC  

So, AI Enhancement would lead to a future where people are still defining the future, but would be able to be more efficient about it.

2018-07-03 00:08:11 UTC  

given the potential to solve such a large number of problems, do you think you can stop any of this? Do you really think after all this time anyone could stop it?

2018-07-03 00:08:43 UTC  

Let's say you've got an AI with you at all times - not a simple computer, mind you, but something you're able to shoulder some of your daily burden on to for life. Essentially micro-automation

2018-07-03 00:09:30 UTC  

the only way to get people providing for themselves over welfare is make it socially benefitial to be self sufficient

2018-07-03 00:09:33 UTC  

That would be something that could amplify human ability as opposed to replacing it.

2018-07-03 00:10:16 UTC  

I think it's entirely possible to reject it, Grenade.

2018-07-03 00:10:33 UTC  

once this technology exists in the world, you can't put it back in the bottle

2018-07-03 00:10:48 UTC  

so you want to tell me, you will get every human on earth to stop researching this

2018-07-03 00:11:00 UTC  

tell russia and china to stop developing tech to beat the us

2018-07-03 00:11:14 UTC  

No.

2018-07-03 00:11:15 UTC  

tell the us to stop developing tech to beat russia and china

2018-07-03 00:11:23 UTC  

I'm saying reject it.

2018-07-03 00:11:23 UTC  

only the implamentation of the tech is the problem, the understanding of how to implament it is not dangerous.

2018-07-03 00:11:47 UTC  

It only replaces us if we let it, financially.

2018-07-03 00:12:00 UTC  

we made it TO replace us

2018-07-03 00:12:05 UTC  

We didn't.

2018-07-03 00:12:06 UTC  

Someone else did.

2018-07-03 00:12:08 UTC  

if we didn;t want it to, we wouldn't make it

2018-07-03 00:12:15 UTC  

no, we. humans

2018-07-03 00:12:17 UTC  

So long as any of us have a dollar to our name, we can reject it.

2018-07-03 00:12:27 UTC  

chances are it won't be someone, but several someones

2018-07-03 00:12:35 UTC  

probably in different areas of the world

2018-07-03 00:13:01 UTC  

again, as i said you need for people to want to work in order to prevent them from choosing not to work and still benefit from the same standard of living

2018-07-03 00:13:17 UTC  

most inventions, even things like electricity or the lightbulb, had multiple people who reached similar ideas, in different parts of the world, unrelated to one another.

2018-07-03 00:13:20 UTC  

so thats why i say we

2018-07-03 00:13:22 UTC  

people will do anything you want them to if you convence them they want to

2018-07-03 00:13:33 UTC  

why would anyone want to coal mine?

2018-07-03 00:13:42 UTC  

or mine in general

2018-07-03 00:13:52 UTC  

make it socially benefitial

2018-07-03 00:13:58 UTC  

why would anyone want to keep doing dangerous jobs out of necessity?

2018-07-03 00:14:38 UTC  

its socially beneficial to have an entire class of people intestinally become part of the welfare state after a while because of the damage done to their body>?

2018-07-03 00:14:39 UTC  

Well, why do they?

2018-07-03 00:14:44 UTC  

That's a good question.

2018-07-03 00:14:46 UTC  

it would help is we stopped the glorification of the manchild thats been slowly creeping into society the last few decades with body positivity and shit like that

2018-07-03 00:15:00 UTC  

There are industries that are currently better-paying and short-staffed.