Message from @RyeNorth
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take it, no.. .earn it, hell yes
I disagree on that, too.
I mean
I'm not opposed to immigration
you disagree with being able to earn a piece of the pie?
but I don't think the US needs to go about headhunting
I think we need more pies.
there are always more pies
its not a zero sum game
just because someone becomes successful doesnt mean someone else has to become unsuccessful
It's a zero sum game packed within a non-zero sum game
The US Economy is, largely, zero sum.
The World Economy is... mostly not?
existing economys that rely on renewible resources extraction rates are zerosum, if you find a new source of resources and have the ability to harvest it on your own dollor for a profit thats when its more than zero sum
Sure, but I can't remember a time when it's been zero sum in the modern age
Well, what I'm getting at is, if we've got no borders, if we just let anyone in - a deal that will likely only be one way
there's always been a new scientifc discovery
but you have to have a truly bombing potental for that or a dying population for immigration to be helpful to that
or a new business, etc
america is actually becoming more zero sum as time goes on
no borders means you aren't a country
Basically, yes.
But it's what's being legitimately argued for
I know
because more things are being owned, less things are being found in america
and I think it's wrong
I think anyone here thinks it's wrong.
when more is owned and less is found you find a plataeu in your economy
yeah but the debate isn't people here
the debate is, how can anyone think, in their right mind, that it's a sane idea
As I outlined, it's redistribution of wealth.
Basically, I propose that the socialists who are pushing for an elimination of borders view the United States as a whole as the bourgeoisie class
well 34K/year is the 1% worldwide
Exactly.
And equality can't be achieved while a 1% group exists unchecked.
It's absolutely mental, but these ARE commies we're talking about...
i don't think socialist really realize how poor the world is.
I think that's fair, as well.
if they did, they would realize that not even all the wealth of the US could raise the world even .1% higher on the economic ladder
it would mean that those same socialist would need to become mountains poorer than the poorest person in the US, as dictated by their ideology.