Message from @LotheronPrime
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yup
but all in all thats why they prioritise higher-value people for immigration, cuz its a safe bet
and it then gives the lower-skilled people less chances to fight over, and that means less people from Less-developed nations
Elimination of borders serves two different ideologies, neither of which I agree with. Corporatists would be for the elimination of borders for the sake of easier trade and access to cheaper workforce. The whole reason Socialists are for eliminating borders is redistribution of wealth. The United States is wealthy, and one cannot simply sit on their wealth, it has to be shared. Redistributed. Anyone who wants the wealth of the United States should be able to take it. At least, that's what I get from it.
take it, no.. .earn it, hell yes
I disagree on that, too.
I mean
I'm not opposed to immigration
you disagree with being able to earn a piece of the pie?
but I don't think the US needs to go about headhunting
I think we need more pies.
there are always more pies
its not a zero sum game
just because someone becomes successful doesnt mean someone else has to become unsuccessful
It's a zero sum game packed within a non-zero sum game
The US Economy is, largely, zero sum.
The World Economy is... mostly not?
existing economys that rely on renewible resources extraction rates are zerosum, if you find a new source of resources and have the ability to harvest it on your own dollor for a profit thats when its more than zero sum
Sure, but I can't remember a time when it's been zero sum in the modern age
Well, what I'm getting at is, if we've got no borders, if we just let anyone in - a deal that will likely only be one way
but you have to have a truly bombing potental for that or a dying population for immigration to be helpful to that
or a new business, etc
america is actually becoming more zero sum as time goes on
It essentially lets other nations raid our resources and send them home.
no borders means you aren't a country
Basically, yes.
But it's what's being legitimately argued for
I know
because more things are being owned, less things are being found in america
and I think it's wrong
I think anyone here thinks it's wrong.
when more is owned and less is found you find a plataeu in your economy
yeah but the debate isn't people here
the debate is, how can anyone think, in their right mind, that it's a sane idea
As I outlined, it's redistribution of wealth.
Basically, I propose that the socialists who are pushing for an elimination of borders view the United States as a whole as the bourgeoisie class
well 34K/year is the 1% worldwide
Exactly.
And equality can't be achieved while a 1% group exists unchecked.
It's absolutely mental, but these ARE commies we're talking about...