Mind changed. Success

wew

and Canada don't have one of these pages. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden

In sweden we just shruged when an old person was killed by a grenade. "7 January, Stockholm, a man in his 60s was killed and a 45-year-old woman was injured after a grenade exploded outside the Vårby gård metro station. The grenade which was accidentally picked up by the man had been abandoned at the side of the path"

We shrug when they throw grenades at police stations.
If that happened in the US, the whole state would be on lockdown until the perp was found.

progressiveism, one hell of a drug

What are the union laws like in the US?
Are an employer required to talk to a union or can they just say they will only discuss salaries with individuals?

It varies by state.

The big thing that people get uptight about is "right to work" versus "closed shop" states. The difference there is mostly whether people are required to join the union and pay fees.

If a place has a union it's usually the case that everyone is going to be on the union contract and a couple people might be hired outside the normal channels somehow in case of a strike. But even that can vary a bit.

Most "what are X laws like in the US" often break down differently by state. It's by design.

Also, some industries are heavily unionized and others aren't. Some industries have different levels and forms of unionization in different parts of the country.

Fuck unions

lol. I was in Michigan when it went Right-to-Work.

That was a warzone.

Unions might doom a new product my team is working on because they are all lazy fucks with too much power

Fucking mafia these unions are

"Unions Killed Detroit"

And this is the story of how Michigan went Republican.

Of How the Auto industry went form the icon of American Unions to voting away unions in Tennessee *despite management endorsing the union*

In deomcracy 3 the only group of people I don't give a shit about pushing policy for is the union group

When I was young I heard about Detroit being the richest place in america

What actually happened?

Seems it's a shithole now

well, i'm sure drugs rake in a lot of cash

I don't think drug cash really counts in the economy

Isn't that black money?

it winds up in the city one way or another so i'd imagine it's counted on some level

Detroit is a mess because their economy depended upon cars and they couldn't compete with Japanese companies

as they paid their workers too much

So did they try and raise the worker wages?

Resulting in companies moving out?

From what I understand welfare also played a part after the car economy sort of imploded

I heard the unions also contributed

Well, the unions were the reason the wages were as high as they got

Detroit is a long story. You'll see a lot of finger pointing depending who you ask. I'll focus on the arguments against the Unions.

The public employee unions racked up large pensions and obligations on the part of the city and coordinated to keep it under their control. The city didn't really invest very wisely or run very well either (the various public and private unions basically picked their bosses leading to corruption). /1

The Auto industry was militantly union. It worked for awhile, but they couldn't keep up with the R&D or low costs of the Japanese Manufacturers in the 70s and 80s. The Unions prevented wages going down or the automakers from offshoring. They were successful in pushing tariffs (like the Truck tax) but then the Japanese automakers just set up shop in the (mostly union-free) South. Engineers I talk to tell me the real issue with the unions was that they just weren't flexible in what they would allow to be built so the automakers couldn't readily adapt to market conditions. That's probably excuse-making on the side of management, but it is true Unions hate meddling with contracts and tend to make demands to hire more people or put people where they don't always make sense. /2

By any means, by the time the American auto industry woke up to the threat of the Japanese they were already very behind. The D3 went more-or-less collectively bankrupt in 2009 and got a bailout (sorta). But the city had lost it's tax base to a combination of capital flight (well-heeled workers for the auto industry prefer to live and work in the surrounding suburbs) and had massive obligations on it's hands and no way to pay them. The city itself went bankrupt in 2013. /3

Detroit is probably going to rise again. It's got history, spunk and cheap land (they'll basically give you a free house if you are willing to fix it up, though police response times were measured in hours the last time I was there, so do it at your own risk). I'm told it's kindling a small hipster scene that it protects carefully and the surrounding counties (like Macomb) are doing quite well. The D3 figured out outsourcing (mostly in Mexico) and now "American" cars often have more foreign parts than "Japanese" cars. /4/4

And that's the funny story about how Toyota became a Texas brand.

lol. so true.

I'm told Toyota actually moved it's California design facility to Texas to avoid the Californian taxes.

probably

But their marketing campaigns sure show a lot of Texas pride.