You can choose not to get the UBI bennifits.

To be honest you know what Id be more okay with?

WEll, nevermind

That would be impossible for the forseeable future

It depends on how large you start it out as .

Lets say we start it out at $1,000 a month.

Mind if I state my issues though?

Sure.

My issue is that the populace would get complacent. Why work if everything is provided, you remove all ambition.

But population changes would fix that

You can get everything you need for 1,000 a month?

We have ghettoes in the US where they live in hell.

But prefer that to having to work for a living or get an education

Yes and many of them are stuck on welfare.

Doesn't that devalue low wage work further? Like the baseline for living is 1k, and you get that no matter what. Why would you work full time for minimum wage unless minimum wage was drastically increased (which is infeasible)

And don't find a job because they don't want to lose welfare.

Second issue.

I think that very much has to do with how welfare incentives work

Jobs would have to pay you a significantly higher wage than the UBI provides.

Why would it need to be increased.

1k and 100% freetime, vs half the time, and anything below 3k for example

You're getting 1k a month reguardless of what you do.

Because who is going to work full time for a job that is only a few degrees more valuable than doing fuck all?

Also when does UBI kick in?

UBI is universal

All of the time.

Regardless of your situation, at the very least it will provide for the basics

Next, there are some services that are not consistent. Living quarter rent for example.

Doesn't that exacerbate the fundie Mormon scenario?

Can society expect to provide say, the same accomodation to everyone at that level of it.

Lets say your disabled, and you're getting 1,200 a month, you're starting to feel better but you still need help. would you be willing to risk your 1,200 a month?

Youd still get 1.2k though right?

No if you start working you lose it.

BUt isnt UBI always on?

Ah, but here's the thing you could switch to UBI from disablity, and get the 1,000 and a part time job.

But would that still make it UBI>

But the UBI wouldn't go away disability can be taken away.

Well heres the issue I have with a pure meritocratic society

That would mean that theres always a group of "absoulute zeroes"

Yes.

So theres charity. Or welfare.