Message from @Dennafen

Discord ID: 472099018382639104


2018-07-26 17:50:45 UTC  

You introduce UBI now, you have the method of distribution, and it would increase over time.

2018-07-26 17:50:50 UTC  

as needed.

2018-07-26 17:50:59 UTC  

if thats the case,

You just added more welfare, and more taxes, and no fix

2018-07-26 17:51:01 UTC  

But eventually you would phase out welfare, would you not?

2018-07-26 17:51:11 UTC  

Once it hits basic needs level

2018-07-26 17:51:21 UTC  

Maybe, I don't think work is totally going to vanish.

2018-07-26 17:51:35 UTC  

manual labor jobs will

2018-07-26 17:51:40 UTC  

Probably.

2018-07-26 17:51:43 UTC  

Could you elaborate?

2018-07-26 17:51:45 UTC  

No they won't.

2018-07-26 17:51:50 UTC  

Most white collar work as well.

2018-07-26 17:51:54 UTC  

not all, but many will

2018-07-26 17:51:55 UTC  

Automation tends to be a bit too inflexible.

2018-07-26 17:52:09 UTC  

There are industries scaling back automation at the moment.

2018-07-26 17:52:11 UTC  

Currently is inflexible.

2018-07-26 17:52:22 UTC  

No, it's physically inflexible.

2018-07-26 17:52:28 UTC  

3d Printed houses for example Pratel

Rig a big machine that can drive around and just be activated, powered up, and build your house

2018-07-26 17:52:34 UTC  

You build your tooling and it's millions of dollars to re-tool.

2018-07-26 17:52:45 UTC  

3d printing radically changes the argument.

2018-07-26 17:52:53 UTC  

Now you have to play people for complexity.

2018-07-26 17:52:57 UTC  

Yes, it's CURRENTY inflexible.

2018-07-26 17:52:58 UTC  

Which is even harder.

2018-07-26 17:53:09 UTC  

The manufacturing is more flexible but the engineering is much harder.

2018-07-26 17:53:13 UTC  

I agree, AI is not inflexible.

2018-07-26 17:53:31 UTC  

AI right now is very much not what people think it is. It's very inflexible.

2018-07-26 17:53:35 UTC  

well thats the point Pratel

You replace 100's of builders, for a machine

And you keep the engineers working

2018-07-26 17:53:45 UTC  

You don't even do that.

2018-07-26 17:53:55 UTC  

You still need someone to survey and install.

2018-07-26 17:53:56 UTC  

Again, you're thinking big dumb robots, AI is not a big dumb robot. It's a robot that can learn for thousands of other robots.

2018-07-26 17:54:05 UTC  

Uh. I'm in AI.

2018-07-26 17:54:14 UTC  

It also has hard, dumb limits

2018-07-26 17:54:17 UTC  

AI is trained on very specific tasks at the moment.

2018-07-26 17:54:26 UTC  

This make the argument much better than I can.

2018-07-26 17:54:41 UTC  

About robots.

2018-07-26 17:55:06 UTC  

Can you summarize it?

2018-07-26 17:55:17 UTC  

I can't just scan a video.

2018-07-26 17:55:30 UTC  

Don't

2018-07-26 17:55:46 UTC  

Watch it.

2018-07-26 17:56:30 UTC  

If this is yet another "robot cars are replacing truckers" and "Deepmind is going to create strong AI and replace humanity video"...

2018-07-26 17:56:58 UTC  

Not replace humanity.