Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-08-02 21:46:10 UTC  

I really enjoy Tim's work and am watching the backlog. The narrative he keeps pushing about the SCOTUS cake decision and that you should just "bake the cake" is wrong. The gay couple specifically targeted that baker because of his religions beliefs and the baker was willing to sell them a generic cake off the shelf, he just did not want to support their wedding message. Naturally this couple made a stink of it as was their goal and got a court case out of it. Freedom of association should be preserved and the government does not have a right to order a business to do service. If the public finds a business is discriminating, they are free to send their own message by not doing business there and causing its destruction.

2018-08-02 21:46:50 UTC  

Whether you agree with my conclusion or not the fact is the issue was far more complex than "just bake a cake bigot" and the fact that Tim brings this up over and over again so simply is really annoying.

2018-08-02 23:52:32 UTC  

I think there's a difference between 'baking the cake' and 'selling the cake'.

2018-08-02 23:53:05 UTC  

And that's part of what came up in that decision, if I'm not mistaken.

2018-08-03 03:31:18 UTC  

The bakery had no issue selling one to them

2018-08-03 18:24:42 UTC  

So this is going to sound *really* conspiratorial. But based on the wiki page, Quinn was deeply in favor of encryption. Jeong gave a talk in which she came out in favor of SJW media censorship ("we must silence some to give others the chance to speak").

Is it possible that the *real* motive here is ideological? The media establishment has been waging war on open exchange online; is it possible the editorial board is trying to build up a collection of people to really start going after unrestricted speech?

2018-08-03 18:50:08 UTC  

Not out of the realm of possiblity but I'm going to have to see some evidence

2018-08-04 02:28:59 UTC  

@Dan V Yeah, I got nothing to show it's actually happening. Only a couple spots on what the people in question think.

2018-08-05 12:28:49 UTC  

ehhhhh does sound conspiracyish but not soo out there that id say its possible

2018-08-05 12:29:33 UTC  

tryin to collect enough cards for a mono sjw pure aggro deck

2018-08-05 12:31:08 UTC  

not sure i t can beat out the hybrid conservative/centre left controll deck we got runnin this season

2018-08-05 12:31:20 UTC  

BELIEVE IN THE HEART OF THE CARDS

2018-08-06 22:24:46 UTC  

so this is it huh

2018-08-06 22:26:10 UTC  

with infowars now gone and nobody willing to adopt an alternative platform, do we just accpet defeat and adapt the regressive mindset?

2018-08-06 22:28:38 UTC  

I never followed infowars, and i'm doing quite alright 😛

2018-08-06 22:29:36 UTC  

you will for now yes

2018-08-06 22:29:47 UTC  

i barely even followed their content or like ever

2018-08-06 22:30:13 UTC  

but the deplatforming of him across the entire internet is just mass censorship

2018-08-06 22:32:06 UTC  

I agree, it sets a very bad precident 😦

2018-08-06 22:32:14 UTC  

this is just step 1

2018-08-06 22:33:19 UTC  

but i don't follow alex jones, and never cared for his news cuz it seemed like lunatic conspiracies most of the time

2018-08-06 22:35:18 UTC  

you mean all the time

2018-08-06 22:35:24 UTC  

he is a joke and you know it

2018-08-06 22:35:49 UTC  

anyways, this is phase 1 of deplatforming people that doesnt align with their ideology

2018-08-06 22:35:52 UTC  

well some of it ended up being correct, if you removed the ranting madness around it 😛

2018-08-06 22:36:10 UTC  

im afraid of what phase 2 would be

2018-08-06 22:37:25 UTC  

phase 2 would prolly be removing any non-left opinion

2018-08-06 22:42:27 UTC  

i had a feeling that was the plan

2018-08-06 22:58:50 UTC  

>how much of the market needs to be covered to be considered a monopoly? i mean, no 1 government has a monopoly of the world

not the whole world, but some have just called dibs on an entire continent

2018-08-06 22:59:08 UTC  

okay but some dont

2018-08-06 22:59:24 UTC  

the problem is that they dont have what is considered legitimate ownership of the land according to homesteading principles

2018-08-06 22:59:43 UTC  

please define what you believe the homesteading principle is

2018-08-06 23:03:20 UTC  

you need to perform an act of original appropriation, like putting it to use or joining it to acquired property, or marking it as owned

2018-08-06 23:04:00 UTC  

you cant just plant a flag, write a constitution and pretend everyone agrees

2018-08-06 23:04:53 UTC  

okay, how long does something need to be unclaimed for there to be no claim?

2018-08-06 23:05:47 UTC  

i'm not sure, it's something we've been discussing in ancap discords

2018-08-06 23:05:50 UTC  

old lady, no kids, no siblings, dies. no will, who gets the house? how long before someone can move in to make a claim?

2018-08-06 23:06:15 UTC  

what would we be waiting for?

2018-08-06 23:06:40 UTC  

make sure there is no one that was family to make a claim

2018-08-06 23:06:52 UTC  

or a friend or something