Message from @pratel

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2018-08-28 20:40:47 UTC  

colleges are now like jungle gyms

2018-08-28 20:41:01 UTC  

mental jungle gyms

2018-08-28 20:41:12 UTC  

like climb where ever

2018-08-28 20:41:27 UTC  

be what ever, doesnt matter if is real or not theres foam everywhere

2018-08-28 20:41:53 UTC  

I use to have the job of telling those that outrank me when they are full of shit... I was considered a critical staff member in the army

2018-08-28 20:42:02 UTC  

Well, for starters, College isn't about learning to think for yourself

2018-08-28 20:42:17 UTC  

Tim's basically right, School in general is designed to train you to be an employee

2018-08-28 20:42:28 UTC  

And not an Employer.

2018-08-28 20:43:47 UTC  

I mean, there are some professions that are employable without employers

2018-08-28 20:44:00 UTC  

but most doctors wind up working for a hospital or a clinic

2018-08-28 20:44:07 UTC  

Most lawyers wind up working under a partnership

2018-08-28 20:44:38 UTC  

Engineers wind up working for a firm, same with Architects.

2018-08-28 20:45:04 UTC  

In a sense, Corporatism crushes Exceptionalism.

2018-08-28 20:45:34 UTC  

And what we're headed towards seems to either be more corporatism, or a kneejerk Socialism.

2018-08-28 20:46:31 UTC  

Authoritative voices need to be drowned out by individualistic ones, but the only way to do that is to get more people to think for themselves

2018-08-28 20:46:36 UTC  

but that's haaaaard.

2018-08-28 21:38:07 UTC  

Lighter topic: States that don't have a Whataburger (as per the Corpus Christi chain, not the hyphenated imposter) are not worth visiting. Discuss.

2018-08-28 23:05:13 UTC  

Then what states besides TX are there?

2018-08-28 23:06:15 UTC  

Exactly

2018-08-28 23:06:29 UTC  

It's not actually true education teaches you to be an employee. It does have a very regimented flair, but there's a move in higher ed to push entrepreneurship.

Mostly, if anything, education is becoming about in-culturing certain specific values granting status.

2018-08-28 23:06:40 UTC  

"High school dropout" is not something people say with pride.

2018-08-28 23:06:59 UTC  

Unless they are pretty successful already.

2018-08-28 23:07:23 UTC  

For contrast, say "Ivy league graduate" and suddenly you get lots of inquiries.

2018-08-28 23:07:59 UTC  

But most of what happens in education these days isn't independent thought.

2018-08-28 23:09:32 UTC  

college used to mean you either had connections, or a worth ethic and a high intellect. Then we decided EVERYONE needed to be a college grad and now its the new high school diploma.

2018-08-28 23:13:55 UTC  

But then what is High school for then and now?

2018-08-28 23:15:49 UTC  

Here's a list of places that are worth visiting

2018-08-28 23:15:58 UTC  

Oh wait.

2018-08-28 23:16:31 UTC  

Although I think this is an old map. [Redacted] definitely has a whataburger.

2018-08-29 20:56:23 UTC  

HS diploma is useless now

2018-08-29 20:56:35 UTC  

College means nothing either because of the trades gap

2018-08-29 20:57:24 UTC  

So either work at McDonalds for 10 years and kill yourself or work in a trade for 10 and be upper-middle class

2018-08-29 21:49:44 UTC  

Or you get into STEM, spend 10 years studying, pay off a mountain of debt and then have a cool job that pays well and still end up upper middle class

2018-08-29 21:51:32 UTC  

and half of those majors have you sniffing corporate or government ass for funding just to be told what your report will be, and left with little to no funding for research that matters

2018-08-30 00:06:50 UTC  

Haha, full ride to a Christian private college for this lad though.

2018-08-30 00:42:23 UTC  

I got a STEM degree four years ago and I am 80% done paying off my student loans.

2018-08-30 00:56:37 UTC  

What did you go into, STEMlad?

2018-08-30 01:17:52 UTC  

Electrical Engineering but my paychecks have been in web development.

2018-08-30 01:19:41 UTC  

If you go into electrical engineering, chances are that you tend to make good life decisions

2018-08-30 02:09:38 UTC  

Yep, I am for the state paying for college tuition, but they first need to get ride of the pointless labral arts degrees, football teams, and resort style swimming pools.