i think they should start teaching philisophy in the us and canada

obligatory for middle and high school

They don't even teach the things they teach effectively. There's not much worse than poor, self-certain philosophy.

philisophy widens the perception of the young ones

they will understand science an the world better

Not if the teacher's just using the opportunity to indoctrinate them into their own philosophy.

Which is absolutely likely to happen.

It happens in University all the time.

education in the us and canada has failed

Agreed.

ive heard that even the open education in mexico has higher standards

There are people in my own generation that think that Socialism might actually work.

Lets be honest, the powers that be don't want to teach critical thinking skills to the young. They want students to be spoon fed what to think

^ ^ ^

yet, the powers that be import brains from places where they still teach those skills

It's far more valuable, and far easier to work with, for a population to just agree with the loudest voice.

cookie cutter kids.

colleges are now like jungle gyms

mental jungle gyms

like climb where ever

be what ever, doesnt matter if is real or not theres foam everywhere

I use to have the job of telling those that outrank me when they are full of shit... I was considered a critical staff member in the army

Well, for starters, College isn't about learning to think for yourself

Tim's basically right, School in general is designed to train you to be an employee

And not an Employer.

I mean, there are some professions that are employable without employers

but most doctors wind up working for a hospital or a clinic

Most lawyers wind up working under a partnership

Engineers wind up working for a firm, same with Architects.

In a sense, Corporatism crushes Exceptionalism.

And what we're headed towards seems to either be more corporatism, or a kneejerk Socialism.

Authoritative voices need to be drowned out by individualistic ones, but the only way to do that is to get more people to think for themselves

but that's haaaaard.

Lighter topic: States that don't have a Whataburger (as per the Corpus Christi chain, not the hyphenated imposter) are not worth visiting. Discuss.

Then what states besides TX are there?

Exactly

It's not actually true education teaches you to be an employee. It does have a very regimented flair, but there's a move in higher ed to push entrepreneurship.

Mostly, if anything, education is becoming about in-culturing certain specific values granting status.

"High school dropout" is not something people say with pride.

Unless they are pretty successful already.

For contrast, say "Ivy league graduate" and suddenly you get lots of inquiries.

But most of what happens in education these days isn't independent thought.