Most lawyers wind up working under a partnership

Engineers wind up working for a firm, same with Architects.

In a sense, Corporatism crushes Exceptionalism.

And what we're headed towards seems to either be more corporatism, or a kneejerk Socialism.

Authoritative voices need to be drowned out by individualistic ones, but the only way to do that is to get more people to think for themselves

but that's haaaaard.

Lighter topic: States that don't have a Whataburger (as per the Corpus Christi chain, not the hyphenated imposter) are not worth visiting. Discuss.

Then what states besides TX are there?

Exactly

It's not actually true education teaches you to be an employee. It does have a very regimented flair, but there's a move in higher ed to push entrepreneurship.

Mostly, if anything, education is becoming about in-culturing certain specific values granting status.

"High school dropout" is not something people say with pride.

Unless they are pretty successful already.

For contrast, say "Ivy league graduate" and suddenly you get lots of inquiries.

But most of what happens in education these days isn't independent thought.

college used to mean you either had connections, or a worth ethic and a high intellect. Then we decided EVERYONE needed to be a college grad and now its the new high school diploma.

But then what is High school for then and now?

Here's a list of places that are worth visiting

Oh wait.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Whataburgercounties2.2017.png

Although I think this is an old map. [Redacted] definitely has a whataburger.

HS diploma is useless now

College means nothing either because of the trades gap

So either work at McDonalds for 10 years and kill yourself or work in a trade for 10 and be upper-middle class

Or you get into STEM, spend 10 years studying, pay off a mountain of debt and then have a cool job that pays well and still end up upper middle class

and half of those majors have you sniffing corporate or government ass for funding just to be told what your report will be, and left with little to no funding for research that matters

Haha, full ride to a Christian private college for this lad though.

I got a STEM degree four years ago and I am 80% done paying off my student loans.

What did you go into, STEMlad?

Electrical Engineering but my paychecks have been in web development.

If you go into electrical engineering, chances are that you tend to make good life decisions

Yep, I am for the state paying for college tuition, but they first need to get ride of the pointless labral arts degrees, football teams, and resort style swimming pools.

They have swimming pools in schools where you are?

Dont know If I want to envy you.

Fuck it, I am envious

getting rid of sports teams, swimming pools, liberal arts degrees are all reasons people would endure paying for college. Although i guess this could be part of your argument, different options

Dont know, I also think sports has their place in academia, problem is, too much value is put into the,

ofc it does, as does music and dance etc

if i was going to argue for payed tuition i don't think i'd be attacking those things, most of those garner public interest and return income on their own. in this case that would go towards taxes to pay for colleges, but all the same

Sports has its place in academics but NCAA sports were the games are televised to the nation in a stadium on par with the NFL or NBA with the coaches making more then the College President seems to not add any academic advantages. I understand how it is used for recruitment. But I don't see how my school wining the Salsa bowl makes my bachelors more valuable.

true

i apologize, i forgot how screwed up college sports can be in that regard