Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-08-30 20:05:23 UTC  

Wait if im woke ill go broke....... fuck

2018-08-30 20:05:44 UTC  

Alexa play pewdiepies latest video

2018-08-30 20:05:57 UTC  

In Berkeley they literally scout junior high schools for candidates for the left-wing indoctrination track. Get them into lefty volunteer organizations, give them scholarships, set them up with mentors in UCLA, and either put them on an education degree track or a law degree track.

2018-08-30 20:06:57 UTC  

From their teenage years to being given a position in a faculty or a law firm.

2018-08-30 20:07:47 UTC  

There's absolutely no way there could possibly be a coup by right-wingers.

2018-08-30 20:08:34 UTC  

The batshit intersectional social justice nonsense is not some trick or ploy by the right. It's part of the overall strategy of the far left.

2018-08-30 20:09:23 UTC  

They need some group to replace the downtrodden industrial proletariat, so they're manufacturing one.

2018-08-30 20:10:51 UTC  

Sleeper agents :^)

2018-08-30 20:11:01 UTC  

The manchurian lefty

2018-09-01 00:50:18 UTC  

Just wanna spew some mumblings into the ether for consideration. If we take the stance of "It is better that ten innocent men suffer than one guilty man escape" can't we then propagate that where most law enforcement happens for everyday people?

The police. Would it be right for the cops to apprehend you for a traffic violation? Would it be right for cops to shoot first and ask questions later? Afterall, better ten jailed/dead criminals than one innocent free/alive.

Was just thinking of this because of Tim's video; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbOCFZWXvX0

Ten criminals jailed sounds good until you extrapolate what that kind of system would look like in built on that foundation. Most people in society are innocent, just folk trying to get by and enjoy their life the best they can.

2018-09-01 00:51:57 UTC  

I'll take this one up, @Ashers

2018-09-01 00:52:07 UTC  

Are you in the States?

2018-09-01 00:52:15 UTC  

Nope~

2018-09-01 00:52:34 UTC  

Mm, so there might be a disconnect in describing our justice system.

2018-09-01 00:53:07 UTC  

Hmm? Wait, what did you get from my ramblings? o.O

2018-09-01 00:53:28 UTC  

I'm of the mind of **Innocent until proven Guilty**

2018-09-01 00:54:13 UTC  

I was just trying entertain the opposite and just ramble about how that'd look when extralopated further beyond the "it's just 1 dude vs 10 actual criminals"

2018-09-01 00:54:47 UTC  

Well, Innocent until proven Guilty is one thing in our legal system, in a way.

2018-09-01 00:55:17 UTC  

Our legal system isn't designed to prove 'innocence' though, as the closest thing we get in a court hearing is 'Not Guilty'.

2018-09-01 00:56:08 UTC  

Another feature we have is that we have something of a funnel for the justice system leading to a verdict at the end.

2018-09-01 00:56:32 UTC  

Three are three tiers of criteria we require at different points

2018-09-01 00:57:15 UTC  

~~Reasonable Suspicion~~ Probable Cause > Preponderance of Evidence > Beyond a reasonable doubt

2018-09-01 00:58:58 UTC  

~~'Reasonable suspicion'~~ Probable Cause is the point at which a police officer is permitted to detain and search.

2018-09-01 00:59:20 UTC  

And you'll have to pardon me, the term is Probable Cause.

2018-09-01 01:01:17 UTC  

So, at the point that probable cause is considered, a person may be detained. Witnessing of a traffic violation equates to probable cause for the citation. The standard's a little lower for those sorts of petty msidemeanors.

2018-09-01 01:02:57 UTC  

I suppose if you're taking examples from the media, it's possible to assume matters operate on a 'shoot first, ask questions later' premise, but that's simply not the case.

2018-09-01 01:06:15 UTC  

I guess I'd ask, @Ashers , what exactly was the question you had? It may have gotten lost in the noise a bit... People don't just skip to 'Guilty' because they're apprehended.

2018-09-01 01:06:42 UTC  

err, I misread that, maybe.

2018-09-01 01:07:49 UTC  

heh. People don't usually say ``"It is better that ten innocent men suffer than one guilty man escape"``. I parsed it weird.

2018-09-01 01:43:57 UTC  

If you look at Tim's video there was a few that would condemn an innocent because if they released them then ten rapist would be free as well. So my tangent was me just trying to think of what that kind of justice system would look like if one was built upon such a stance.

2018-09-01 01:45:56 UTC  

And my question about cops was just me framing it within that justice system

2018-09-01 01:58:39 UTC  

@Ashers This mindset is all around you, though. Consider people who would willingly condemn an entire religion based on the actions of some, or condemn an entire race based on criminal statistics. People who condemn the rich based on inequality. The Salem Witch Trials are a good example of it. It's far more visible if you know what you're looking for, and it's invariably authoritarian.

2018-09-01 06:58:07 UTC  

Everyone needs to go check the curriculum, textbooks and course offerings of their local schools now.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/30/professor-worked-common-core-tests-math-needs-downplay-objects-truth-knowledge/

Highlights:
"Gutierrez is an education professor who also teaches in Urbana-Champaign’s “Latino studies” program, of course. Her CV says she helped write federally funded Common Core math tests and has been on a host of taxpayer-funded committees, including several of the National Science Foundation"

"She’s helped decide which education professors to grant tenure at more than a dozen public universities, and been given visiting lecture position at Vanderbilt University, which is reputed to have one of the most pre-eminent teaching degree programs."

2018-09-01 06:58:20 UTC  

"In it, she details how “Alt-Right” institutions such as Fox News and Campus Reform publicized and simplified some of her previous “scholarship” that made, she says, “two key points: (a) mathematics operates as whiteness when we do not acknowledge the contributions of all cultures, and (b) mathematics operates as whiteness when it is used as a standard by which we judge others.” "

"Gutierrez goes on to positively cite instances going back to the 1960s of taxpayer-paid teachers in public institutions using their public positions to deliberately and deceptively disregard the will of the people as expressed through their elected representatives and civic institutions. She presents as examples of “revolution” Mexican-American studies teachers continuing to teach these Marxist, anti-American classes in public schools after state legislators banned the course."

**"That’s not even all. Gutierrez then goes on to say that mathematics has already turned in the direction of being willing to subordinate the field to political concerns.

>Many of the mathematicians I know did not shy away from the ‘politics’ [sic] or ask me not to use words like White supremacy when naming the relationship between mathematics and power. I saw a different relationship between mathematicians and mathematics education researchers than what happened over a decade ago to Jo Boaler (Boaler, 2012), whose main opposition came from mathematicians.
"**

2018-09-01 06:58:33 UTC  

"Rochelle Gutierrez and her “allies” get that education is not just political, but existential. The Right needs to get this too. And fast."

2018-09-01 06:58:45 UTC  

@Dusty Morgan The point about banning the course causing it to gain traction is worth a particular read. It's how *not* to go about removing social justice from the curriculum.

2018-09-01 15:05:14 UTC  

Mathematicians are political because they asked me to not call mathematics, a whole field of STEM, white supremacist....
>An actual professor

2018-09-01 16:06:13 UTC  

fucking what

2018-09-01 16:06:32 UTC  

science and medicine is white supremacy.

2018-09-01 16:27:20 UTC  

Decolonize science and math

2018-09-01 17:44:33 UTC  

I've considered use of the Alt-Right epithet to be intentional and calculated, but I think I may have found another explanation as to why it's used