Message from @Risotto

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2018-09-28 21:10:49 UTC  

Not even recommend a course of action. Just point out the fact.

2018-09-28 21:16:33 UTC  

The scary part is that in the rush to oppose Trump, the old left is coming on board.

So yes, I agree with you, the new left is very different from the old left and has been around long before Trump and would emerge even without Trump.

But it's only getting worse. And even if Trump were removed from office tomorrow, they'll only get more authoritarian once they have power.

2018-09-28 21:18:06 UTC  

Look at the crowd funding site than banned all Republicans from their site.

2018-09-28 21:22:36 UTC  

Which one again?

2018-09-28 21:24:04 UTC  

I forget the name, Timpool did a story on it a while back.

2018-09-28 21:29:13 UTC  

Personally, I'm still really deeply concerned about that Obama Tea Party Tax scandal. That's what the new left believes is just. And I have no doubt they'll do it again with more force next time.

2018-09-28 21:29:23 UTC  

Or what happened in Wisconsin with the morning raids.

2018-09-28 21:38:45 UTC  

I'm on SSI, literally dependant on handouts, but I'm at the point wehre I can't support the modern left, a right winger who wants to cut off all my support programs and force me to wage slave or starve is more trustworthy because they don't want to mind control me.

2018-09-28 21:42:10 UTC  

Bernie Sanders is too far to the right for them because he's a Nordic Capitlaist instead of Full Venezuela.

2018-09-28 21:45:50 UTC  

@@Risotto , where do you hang your hat?

2018-09-28 21:46:42 UTC  

Washington state

2018-09-28 21:47:39 UTC  

Ayy PNW

2018-09-28 22:01:31 UTC  

I blame it on the 24 Hours news cycle and advertisement based entertainment.

2018-09-28 22:02:11 UTC  

The news networks needed to continually ramp up events to get viewers/clicks so they kept pushing things farther and farther.

2018-09-28 22:05:41 UTC  

There's a lot of moneyt o be made treating real life like it's pro wrestling

2018-09-28 22:05:48 UTC  

There's even a heel in the white house now

2018-09-28 22:07:04 UTC  

actually IIRC

2018-09-28 22:07:11 UTC  

Trump was the face when he was in WWE

2018-09-28 22:07:17 UTC  

cause Vince almost always played the Heel.

2018-09-28 22:08:13 UTC  

We need a president who can actually sell a stunner though

2018-09-28 22:08:19 UTC  

Trump's are pretty limp

2018-09-28 22:12:03 UTC  

So Dolph Ziggler 2020?

2018-09-29 04:19:20 UTC  

This was a really good breakdown of the hearing and the moral aspects of it. Also talked a bit about the left and "civil war". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYz2qQ_PswI

2018-09-29 04:19:43 UTC  

Fak it doesn't embed.

2018-09-29 04:22:52 UTC  

no embeds allowed in this text channel

2018-09-29 04:23:05 UTC  

Yeah I noticed.

2018-09-29 04:23:48 UTC  

No cigar smoking allowed? That 's insane

2018-09-29 04:23:56 UTC  

I remember the uptight 80s and it wasn't this bad

2018-09-29 04:29:49 UTC  

@Knights Armament I'm going to mostly agree and add that if you're looking for a specific early example of Leftist identity politics causing divide, look no further than the Atheism+ movement that started back in 2012. The insertion of ideas that feminism and intersectionality are key aspects of being a proper skeptic caused a huge rift in the Atheist community, and even back then you had things similar to the more modern #metoo movement with that one lady who claimed to be sexually assaulted in an elevator by some prominent member of the Atheist community. Caused huge schisms along the same lines we see today (believe victims vs. innocent until proven guilty). The only difference is these politics have become much more visible in the mainstream now especially with them becoming increasingly dominant in institutions like Academia and Journalism. Trumps election is absolutely a symptom of the problem but his pushback also fuels the divide. Whether or not you can call that his fault is an entirely different discussion that I would be conflicted on, although I learn towards it mostly not being his fault.

2018-09-29 04:32:42 UTC  

Richard Dawkins

2018-09-29 04:37:47 UTC  

isnt he that biologist?

2018-09-29 04:38:41 UTC  

He was a popular voice of skeptics

2018-09-29 04:39:14 UTC  
2018-09-29 04:43:07 UTC  

Sorry let me correct that, she wasn't sexually assaulted in an elevator. A man said at an elevator that he found her attractive and asked to come up for coffee which she took exception to in a video and a slate article. Dawkins weighed in that complaining about that is basically being whiny esp considering the guy left her alone after that and never layed a finger on her.

2018-09-29 04:48:30 UTC  

yeah, i know of that book :)

2018-09-29 04:48:48 UTC  

i watched a debate between him and a cardinal

2018-09-29 04:49:09 UTC  

why'd u mention him?

2018-09-29 04:51:16 UTC  

he was involved with the incident I am referencing

2018-09-29 04:51:44 UTC  

oh :o

2018-09-29 04:52:46 UTC  

the author of that article is the woman?