Message from @pratel

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2018-09-28 20:59:56 UTC  

The rise of the new left alt-media is a strong driver, but it's water on a seed.

2018-09-28 21:00:40 UTC  

I wouldn't put all the blame on the Left but I can't ignore what I've seen coming from the Left. The things I've seen are quite disconcerting.

2018-09-28 21:02:11 UTC  

It's extremely concerning.

2018-09-28 21:02:30 UTC  

I've been in a very left-wing place (academia).

2018-09-28 21:02:43 UTC  

What people are seeing is just the tip of the iceberg.

2018-09-28 21:03:02 UTC  

The Kavanaugh circus is far fairer than a Title IX investigation.

2018-09-28 21:03:30 UTC  

I've seen people submit evidence for Title IX courts (hard, solid alibis--not merely hearsay) and get it not only rejected but then lose jobs.

2018-09-28 21:03:37 UTC  

Because it contradicted the woman.

2018-09-28 21:03:46 UTC  

People don't realize where this is all headed.

2018-09-28 21:04:47 UTC  

It's really not a working class left either.

2018-09-28 21:04:56 UTC  

The word I've heard is that it's anew Brahmin left.

2018-09-28 21:05:17 UTC  

It sees itself as the sole moral authority and just wants to pass around money as a way of asserting more power.

2018-09-28 21:05:25 UTC  

Make the people dependent on your cash and you gain more control.

2018-09-28 21:06:41 UTC  

They won't say it that way, but they will believe they are doing "the best thing" and that the working class doesn't understand what's best for them ("what's wrong with Kansas?")

2018-09-28 21:09:35 UTC  

Just as much to the point, the activist elements drive out any opposition leaving an echo chamber that cannot take any form of dissent on any issue whatsoever.

2018-09-28 21:10:09 UTC  

As such they won't accept considerations of contradictions or "capitalist frames"

2018-09-28 21:10:29 UTC  

Like, you can't point out that both Islam and Christianity aren't exactly fond of homosexuality.

2018-09-28 21:10:49 UTC  

Not even recommend a course of action. Just point out the fact.

2018-09-28 21:16:33 UTC  

The scary part is that in the rush to oppose Trump, the old left is coming on board.

So yes, I agree with you, the new left is very different from the old left and has been around long before Trump and would emerge even without Trump.

But it's only getting worse. And even if Trump were removed from office tomorrow, they'll only get more authoritarian once they have power.

2018-09-28 21:18:06 UTC  

Look at the crowd funding site than banned all Republicans from their site.

2018-09-28 21:22:36 UTC  

Which one again?

2018-09-28 21:24:04 UTC  

I forget the name, Timpool did a story on it a while back.

2018-09-28 21:29:13 UTC  

Personally, I'm still really deeply concerned about that Obama Tea Party Tax scandal. That's what the new left believes is just. And I have no doubt they'll do it again with more force next time.

2018-09-28 21:29:23 UTC  

Or what happened in Wisconsin with the morning raids.

2018-09-28 21:38:45 UTC  

I'm on SSI, literally dependant on handouts, but I'm at the point wehre I can't support the modern left, a right winger who wants to cut off all my support programs and force me to wage slave or starve is more trustworthy because they don't want to mind control me.

2018-09-28 21:42:10 UTC  

Bernie Sanders is too far to the right for them because he's a Nordic Capitlaist instead of Full Venezuela.

2018-09-28 21:45:50 UTC  

@@Risotto , where do you hang your hat?

2018-09-28 21:46:42 UTC  

Washington state

2018-09-28 21:47:39 UTC  

Ayy PNW

2018-09-28 22:01:31 UTC  

I blame it on the 24 Hours news cycle and advertisement based entertainment.

2018-09-28 22:02:11 UTC  

The news networks needed to continually ramp up events to get viewers/clicks so they kept pushing things farther and farther.

2018-09-28 22:05:41 UTC  

There's a lot of moneyt o be made treating real life like it's pro wrestling

2018-09-28 22:05:48 UTC  

There's even a heel in the white house now

2018-09-28 22:07:04 UTC  

actually IIRC

2018-09-28 22:07:11 UTC  

Trump was the face when he was in WWE

2018-09-28 22:07:17 UTC  

cause Vince almost always played the Heel.

2018-09-28 22:08:13 UTC  

We need a president who can actually sell a stunner though

2018-09-28 22:08:19 UTC  

Trump's are pretty limp

2018-09-28 22:12:03 UTC  

So Dolph Ziggler 2020?

2018-09-29 04:19:20 UTC  

This was a really good breakdown of the hearing and the moral aspects of it. Also talked a bit about the left and "civil war". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYz2qQ_PswI

2018-09-29 04:19:43 UTC  

Fak it doesn't embed.