Message from @RyeNorth
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I've seen people submit evidence for Title IX courts (hard, solid alibis--not merely hearsay) and get it not only rejected but then lose jobs.
Because it contradicted the woman.
People don't realize where this is all headed.
It's really not a working class left either.
The word I've heard is that it's anew Brahmin left.
It sees itself as the sole moral authority and just wants to pass around money as a way of asserting more power.
Make the people dependent on your cash and you gain more control.
They won't say it that way, but they will believe they are doing "the best thing" and that the working class doesn't understand what's best for them ("what's wrong with Kansas?")
Just as much to the point, the activist elements drive out any opposition leaving an echo chamber that cannot take any form of dissent on any issue whatsoever.
As such they won't accept considerations of contradictions or "capitalist frames"
Like, you can't point out that both Islam and Christianity aren't exactly fond of homosexuality.
Not even recommend a course of action. Just point out the fact.
The scary part is that in the rush to oppose Trump, the old left is coming on board.
So yes, I agree with you, the new left is very different from the old left and has been around long before Trump and would emerge even without Trump.
But it's only getting worse. And even if Trump were removed from office tomorrow, they'll only get more authoritarian once they have power.
Look at the crowd funding site than banned all Republicans from their site.
Which one again?
I forget the name, Timpool did a story on it a while back.
Personally, I'm still really deeply concerned about that Obama Tea Party Tax scandal. That's what the new left believes is just. And I have no doubt they'll do it again with more force next time.
Or what happened in Wisconsin with the morning raids.
I'm on SSI, literally dependant on handouts, but I'm at the point wehre I can't support the modern left, a right winger who wants to cut off all my support programs and force me to wage slave or starve is more trustworthy because they don't want to mind control me.
Bernie Sanders is too far to the right for them because he's a Nordic Capitlaist instead of Full Venezuela.
Washington state
Ayy PNW
I blame it on the 24 Hours news cycle and advertisement based entertainment.
The news networks needed to continually ramp up events to get viewers/clicks so they kept pushing things farther and farther.
There's a lot of moneyt o be made treating real life like it's pro wrestling
There's even a heel in the white house now
actually IIRC
Trump was the face when he was in WWE
cause Vince almost always played the Heel.
We need a president who can actually sell a stunner though
Trump's are pretty limp
So Dolph Ziggler 2020?
This was a really good breakdown of the hearing and the moral aspects of it. Also talked a bit about the left and "civil war". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYz2qQ_PswI
Fak it doesn't embed.
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Yeah I noticed.
No cigar smoking allowed? That 's insane
I remember the uptight 80s and it wasn't this bad
@Knights Armament I'm going to mostly agree and add that if you're looking for a specific early example of Leftist identity politics causing divide, look no further than the Atheism+ movement that started back in 2012. The insertion of ideas that feminism and intersectionality are key aspects of being a proper skeptic caused a huge rift in the Atheist community, and even back then you had things similar to the more modern #metoo movement with that one lady who claimed to be sexually assaulted in an elevator by some prominent member of the Atheist community. Caused huge schisms along the same lines we see today (believe victims vs. innocent until proven guilty). The only difference is these politics have become much more visible in the mainstream now especially with them becoming increasingly dominant in institutions like Academia and Journalism. Trumps election is absolutely a symptom of the problem but his pushback also fuels the divide. Whether or not you can call that his fault is an entirely different discussion that I would be conflicted on, although I learn towards it mostly not being his fault.
Richard Dawkins