honestly, i think this whole sports issue is only temporary as new generations start preparation / transitioning early

It is so different.

>transitioning early
Unethical tbh. Dysphoria in kids very rarely goes beyond 18

And from what I recall, puberty blockers aren't really a solution to the problem

obviously if someone decides to transition in their 30 or what not there is gonna be massive diifference in all those factors before mentioned comapred to kid that started with hormones asap

Puberty for men does not end really till mid 20's.

Hell, I'm 19 and I'm DEFINITELY not done

I have a relatively high pitched voice, I'm only 5'5, I can't grow facial hair on my cheeks

Like medically they've determined I'm behind, I have delayed bone growth and stuff

I know people in their late 20s who are permanently babyfaced tbh

Oh fuck, that'll be fun, the metal singer who needs to show his ID to buy 15-Rated movies

Having to manscape is an all afternoon affair bro.

why you make this so weird.
you have ether X and X
or X and Y

and that determinates your sex.
and mutilating your body doesnt change that.

for sure

oh sure, chromosomes are one thing but there is difference between male and female brain, if you are born with brain closer to the female norm you might experience disphoria with your body and you can fill in the blank from there

some peope might not even notice, some people can deal with it, some need transition

"brain closer to the female norm"
source plz

so you can determinate sex by scanning brain?
if so shouldnt that be reguirement for sex change?

>you either have xx or xy
Not strictly true
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosome_abnormality

And there are two reasons for someone transitioning outside socjus shit
One is brain scan shit
One is just extreme dysphoria
Both should be a last resort basically

Bio is still going to pump you full of E or T. It doent care what your brain says.

you dont threat mentall illnes with surgery...

Actually they used to. #lobotomy

That's actually not really true at all

Epilepsy in extreme cases is treated with brain surgery basically

In which they cut through the corpus callosum

There's probably a number of other similar instances tbh, and we'll probably find more as time goes on

yea

Mental illness is essentially just errant brain function and the brain is a physical organ

sorry, had to run off

S'all good

I think it might be a case of loving who you are. Kind of accepting who you are maybe?

I guess thats what people define mental illness as I guess. What if a brain tumour is causing something, does removing count as well?

Actually another question

there is difference between mental illness and neurological disorder😉

Do brain tumours cause mental illness?

There is a huge difference Jasse for sure.

and beemann was using example of curing neurological disorder by surgery
And comparing that to mentall illnes.

Mental illness though is one of those things people dont talk bout much anymore

And the difference between the two is kinda just... not really discussed unless you are an expert on the topic.

Even when you're talking specifically about mental illness we primarily treat that physically