Message from @Beemann
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The main things that concern/frustrate me are;
a) when people try and identify as something abstract that has no relation to sex, e.g. my girlfriend once unironically saw someone on tumblr say their gender identity was Chinese
b) when people think having certain superficial qualities make them intersex- a stereotypically boyish girl is not necessarily transsexual
Transitioning doesn't undo the amount of testosterone you've had pumped into your system. Dimorphism isn't going to be undone with pills
cutting out your dick doesnt change your sex.
you are still man with mutilated gentelas
you're trying to get a woman to play in the male leagues
that's ridiculous
I'm trying to get someone with male levels of testosterone to compete with those who also have similar levels
The amount of T in a man can never be the same as you can pump into a woman without serious damage.
I identify as a man with tattoos all over my face. I can't join the police service or the military. It severely limits my choice in life. You can't expect to change something so drastic as your gender and face no side effects. Choices have consequences.
I think the issue Beemann is trying to bring up is that a trans woman MMA fighter has an unfair biological advantage- it would be of no concern if a trans woman was identical to a biological female, but the issue is that a trans woman is generally taller, stronger, has longer reach, and weighs more
So generally speaking a cis woman will get the shit kicked out of her
she wouldn't have a significant advantage after transitioning tho
look at Fallon Fox
she's a featherweight and not particularly remarkable
I'm not sure I know Fallon Fox
You are talking about bone mass, tendon strength and muscular density.
she's the trans woman mma fighter that made headlines
There's always exceptions, tbf
mutilating your genetals doesnt change your sex.
same way as chaning logos on car doesnt change car brand.
I just think as a general rule, bio males do have a significant advantage when it comes to fighting
honestly, i think this whole sports issue is only temporary as new generations start preparation / transitioning early
It is so different.
>transitioning early
Unethical tbh. Dysphoria in kids very rarely goes beyond 18
obviously if someone decides to transition in their 30 or what not there is gonna be massive diifference in all those factors before mentioned comapred to kid that started with hormones asap
Puberty for men does not end really till mid 20's.
Hell, I'm 19 and I'm DEFINITELY not done
I have a relatively high pitched voice, I'm only 5'5, I can't grow facial hair on my cheeks
Like medically they've determined I'm behind, I have delayed bone growth and stuff
I know people in their late 20s who are permanently babyfaced tbh
Oh fuck, that'll be fun, the metal singer who needs to show his ID to buy 15-Rated movies
Having to manscape is an all afternoon affair bro.
why you make this so weird.
you have ether X and X
or X and Y
and that determinates your sex.
and mutilating your body doesnt change that.
for sure
oh sure, chromosomes are one thing but there is difference between male and female brain, if you are born with brain closer to the female norm you might experience disphoria with your body and you can fill in the blank from there
some peope might not even notice, some people can deal with it, some need transition
"brain closer to the female norm"
source plz
so you can determinate sex by scanning brain?
if so shouldnt that be reguirement for sex change?
>you either have xx or xy
Not strictly true
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosome_abnormality
And there are two reasons for someone transitioning outside socjus shit
One is brain scan shit
One is just extreme dysphoria
Both should be a last resort basically
Bio is still going to pump you full of E or T. It doent care what your brain says.
you dont threat mentall illnes with surgery...
Actually they used to. #lobotomy
That's actually not really true at all