Message from @Folic

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2018-10-15 15:11:00 UTC  

Having to manscape is an all afternoon affair bro.

2018-10-15 15:17:47 UTC  

why you make this so weird.
you have ether X and X
or X and Y

and that determinates your sex.
and mutilating your body doesnt change that.

2018-10-15 15:17:48 UTC  

for sure

2018-10-15 15:19:14 UTC  

oh sure, chromosomes are one thing but there is difference between male and female brain, if you are born with brain closer to the female norm you might experience disphoria with your body and you can fill in the blank from there

2018-10-15 15:19:46 UTC  

some peope might not even notice, some people can deal with it, some need transition

2018-10-15 15:20:05 UTC  

"brain closer to the female norm"
source plz

2018-10-15 15:20:38 UTC  

so you can determinate sex by scanning brain?
if so shouldnt that be reguirement for sex change?

2018-10-15 15:20:57 UTC  

>you either have xx or xy
Not strictly true
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosome_abnormality

2018-10-15 15:21:52 UTC  

And there are two reasons for someone transitioning outside socjus shit
One is brain scan shit
One is just extreme dysphoria
Both should be a last resort basically

2018-10-15 15:23:16 UTC  

Bio is still going to pump you full of E or T. It doent care what your brain says.

2018-10-15 15:24:53 UTC  

you dont threat mentall illnes with surgery...

2018-10-15 15:26:38 UTC  

Actually they used to. #lobotomy

2018-10-15 15:26:40 UTC  

That's actually not really true at all

2018-10-15 15:26:56 UTC  

Epilepsy in extreme cases is treated with brain surgery basically

2018-10-15 15:28:29 UTC  

In which they cut through the corpus callosum

2018-10-15 15:29:42 UTC  

There's probably a number of other similar instances tbh, and we'll probably find more as time goes on

2018-10-15 15:30:24 UTC  

yea

2018-10-15 15:30:27 UTC  

Mental illness is essentially just errant brain function and the brain is a physical organ

2018-10-15 15:30:38 UTC  

sorry, had to run off

2018-10-15 15:30:43 UTC  

S'all good

2018-10-15 15:31:54 UTC  

I think it might be a case of loving who you are. Kind of accepting who you are maybe?

2018-10-15 15:32:03 UTC  

I guess thats what people define mental illness as I guess. What if a brain tumour is causing something, does removing count as well?

2018-10-15 15:33:00 UTC  

Actually another question

2018-10-15 15:33:03 UTC  

there is difference between mental illness and neurological disorder😉

2018-10-15 15:33:09 UTC  

Do brain tumours cause mental illness?

2018-10-15 15:34:15 UTC  

There is a huge difference Jasse for sure.

2018-10-15 15:35:24 UTC  

and beemann was using example of curing neurological disorder by surgery
And comparing that to mentall illnes.

2018-10-15 15:35:25 UTC  

Mental illness though is one of those things people dont talk bout much anymore

2018-10-15 15:35:49 UTC  

And the difference between the two is kinda just... not really discussed unless you are an expert on the topic.

2018-10-15 15:36:27 UTC  

Even when you're talking specifically about mental illness we primarily treat that physically

2018-10-15 15:37:03 UTC  

If only its something that is diagnosed as such.

2018-10-15 15:37:15 UTC  

Problem with mental illness though is that its.. very specific

2018-10-15 15:37:34 UTC  

Sure, we don't just go out handing pills and electroconvulsive therapy to randos

2018-10-15 15:38:03 UTC  

Also people cant be trusted to continue their treatment. What if they stop taking their pills for instance

2018-10-15 15:38:11 UTC  

And they rebound violently

2018-10-15 15:38:14 UTC  

But the topic in question was extreme, diagnosed cases of dysphoria

2018-10-15 15:39:03 UTC  

Which is generally treated with pills (not surgery) with elective plastic surgery

2018-10-15 15:39:17 UTC  

And which can be caused by differences in brain structure

2018-10-15 15:39:18 UTC  

Psyco vs physical

2018-10-15 15:39:39 UTC  

Didnt they treat that with vibrators?

2018-10-15 15:40:33 UTC  

There are physical and psychological bases for dysphoria