Message from @Folic

Discord ID: 501410555911733258


2018-10-15 15:00:29 UTC  

you're wroge.

2018-10-15 15:00:30 UTC  

Never right to hit a woman

2018-10-15 15:00:55 UTC  

The main things that concern/frustrate me are;
a) when people try and identify as something abstract that has no relation to sex, e.g. my girlfriend once unironically saw someone on tumblr say their gender identity was Chinese
b) when people think having certain superficial qualities make them intersex- a stereotypically boyish girl is not necessarily transsexual

2018-10-15 15:00:58 UTC  

Transitioning doesn't undo the amount of testosterone you've had pumped into your system. Dimorphism isn't going to be undone with pills

2018-10-15 15:01:28 UTC  

cutting out your dick doesnt change your sex.
you are still man with mutilated gentelas

2018-10-15 15:01:46 UTC  

you're trying to get a woman to play in the male leagues
that's ridiculous

2018-10-15 15:02:17 UTC  

I'm trying to get someone with male levels of testosterone to compete with those who also have similar levels

2018-10-15 15:02:21 UTC  

The amount of T in a man can never be the same as you can pump into a woman without serious damage.

2018-10-15 15:02:28 UTC  

I identify as a man with tattoos all over my face. I can't join the police service or the military. It severely limits my choice in life. You can't expect to change something so drastic as your gender and face no side effects. Choices have consequences.

2018-10-15 15:02:30 UTC  

I think the issue Beemann is trying to bring up is that a trans woman MMA fighter has an unfair biological advantage- it would be of no concern if a trans woman was identical to a biological female, but the issue is that a trans woman is generally taller, stronger, has longer reach, and weighs more

2018-10-15 15:02:50 UTC  

So generally speaking a cis woman will get the shit kicked out of her

2018-10-15 15:03:05 UTC  

she wouldn't have a significant advantage after transitioning tho
look at Fallon Fox

2018-10-15 15:03:58 UTC  

she's a featherweight and not particularly remarkable

2018-10-15 15:04:04 UTC  

I'm not sure I know Fallon Fox

2018-10-15 15:04:49 UTC  

You are talking about bone mass, tendon strength and muscular density.

2018-10-15 15:04:51 UTC  

she's the trans woman mma fighter that made headlines

2018-10-15 15:05:55 UTC  

There's always exceptions, tbf

2018-10-15 15:05:57 UTC  

mutilating your genetals doesnt change your sex.
same way as chaning logos on car doesnt change car brand.

2018-10-15 15:06:16 UTC  

I just think as a general rule, bio males do have a significant advantage when it comes to fighting

2018-10-15 15:06:26 UTC  

honestly, i think this whole sports issue is only temporary as new generations start preparation / transitioning early

2018-10-15 15:06:32 UTC  

It is so different.

2018-10-15 15:07:12 UTC  

>transitioning early
Unethical tbh. Dysphoria in kids very rarely goes beyond 18

2018-10-15 15:07:32 UTC  

And from what I recall, puberty blockers aren't really a solution to the problem

2018-10-15 15:07:46 UTC  

obviously if someone decides to transition in their 30 or what not there is gonna be massive diifference in all those factors before mentioned comapred to kid that started with hormones asap

2018-10-15 15:08:06 UTC  

Puberty for men does not end really till mid 20's.

2018-10-15 15:08:33 UTC  

Hell, I'm 19 and I'm DEFINITELY not done

2018-10-15 15:08:58 UTC  

I have a relatively high pitched voice, I'm only 5'5, I can't grow facial hair on my cheeks

2018-10-15 15:09:16 UTC  

Like medically they've determined I'm behind, I have delayed bone growth and stuff

2018-10-15 15:09:35 UTC  

I know people in their late 20s who are permanently babyfaced tbh

2018-10-15 15:10:22 UTC  

Oh fuck, that'll be fun, the metal singer who needs to show his ID to buy 15-Rated movies

2018-10-15 15:11:00 UTC  

Having to manscape is an all afternoon affair bro.

2018-10-15 15:17:47 UTC  

why you make this so weird.
you have ether X and X
or X and Y

and that determinates your sex.
and mutilating your body doesnt change that.

2018-10-15 15:17:48 UTC  

for sure

2018-10-15 15:19:14 UTC  

oh sure, chromosomes are one thing but there is difference between male and female brain, if you are born with brain closer to the female norm you might experience disphoria with your body and you can fill in the blank from there

2018-10-15 15:19:46 UTC  

some peope might not even notice, some people can deal with it, some need transition

2018-10-15 15:20:05 UTC  

"brain closer to the female norm"
source plz

2018-10-15 15:20:38 UTC  

so you can determinate sex by scanning brain?
if so shouldnt that be reguirement for sex change?

2018-10-15 15:20:57 UTC  

>you either have xx or xy
Not strictly true
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosome_abnormality

2018-10-15 15:21:52 UTC  

And there are two reasons for someone transitioning outside socjus shit
One is brain scan shit
One is just extreme dysphoria
Both should be a last resort basically

2018-10-15 15:23:16 UTC  

Bio is still going to pump you full of E or T. It doent care what your brain says.

2018-10-15 15:24:53 UTC  

you dont threat mentall illnes with surgery...