Message from @DrYuriMom

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2018-10-27 03:16:09 UTC  

Should be combined with Theonomous principles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theonomy

2018-10-27 03:16:22 UTC  

"hate crime"
what that even means. just anti freedom of speech...

2018-10-27 03:17:29 UTC  

Since when are incels white supremacists? can anyone tell me when that happened because i really dont pay any attention to the whole incel thing

2018-10-27 03:18:12 UTC  

Direct democracy at a local level with representative democracy at the state level. Representatives are composed of a class called the Polis who gain there position through a minimum two years service to the State along with continued obligations alongside their responsibility.

2018-10-27 03:18:42 UTC  

The Polis in turn would be the main elective body of the federal level.

2018-10-27 03:19:51 UTC  

Populism is upheld through nationalist policies like Sphere of Popularity and Solidarity Economics

2018-10-27 03:20:54 UTC  

sounds nasty

2018-10-27 03:21:01 UTC  

you would need to abolish current media companies.
or they would have the power to manipulate peoples belives like right now.

2018-10-27 03:21:37 UTC  

most people are too stupid to understand politics

2018-10-27 14:07:48 UTC  

If you believe that, you need to start working to reduce democratic influence in the country.

2018-10-27 14:18:25 UTC  

Would it be any different if you had a King instead of a President??

2018-10-27 14:18:50 UTC  

would suck if it was something like George B. or Angela M. but rock if it was someone like Ron or Rand.

2018-10-27 14:20:46 UTC  

How does the philosophical underpinning of Theonomy differ from Sharia, @Dvir ?

2018-10-27 14:22:18 UTC  

Government by holy text seems pretty suspect unless you happen to have a nation made entirely of adherents to one exact interpretation of that holy text.

2018-10-27 14:22:36 UTC  

And heaven help anyone who comes along and feels differently.

2018-10-27 14:24:55 UTC  

Most of Heinlein's future history was based on the US becoming and then overcoming a theocracy in the early 21st century. Ironically the Latter Day Saints were part of the resistance because the theocracy was not THIER theocracy.

2018-10-27 17:04:33 UTC  

Let's talk my favorite subject. Health care. Is pure capitalism a good thing for health care?

2018-10-27 17:05:34 UTC  

As stated prior, @DrYuriMom , what do you mean when you say "pure capitalism"

2018-10-27 17:06:07 UTC  

The invisible hand. Market forces handle everything with little or no regulation.

2018-10-27 17:06:17 UTC  

No minimum wage

2018-10-27 17:06:27 UTC  

No tax structure to encourage some things and discourage others

2018-10-27 17:06:33 UTC  

No state enterprises

2018-10-27 17:07:08 UTC  

What stops people from banding together and making an organization that handles healthcare as a single payer or hybrid system?

2018-10-27 17:07:08 UTC  

People pay for it individually or it doesn't happen

2018-10-27 17:07:31 UTC  

If done individually by choice, nothing.

2018-10-27 17:07:44 UTC  

But if government does it, that's socialism, right?

2018-10-27 17:08:09 UTC  

Not necessarily no. You've read Hayek yes?

2018-10-27 17:08:55 UTC  

Socialism is explicitly the relegation of all resources to a "dictatorship of the proletariat", whatever form that may take

2018-10-27 17:09:40 UTC  

You could make the argument that an enforced monopoly is a sort of "sector socialism" I suppose, but there's no incompatibility with the government competing with the market

2018-10-27 17:10:24 UTC  

I think the only real exception here are things where you're going to inevitably have a monopoly anyway- a lot of infrastructural improvements work in this manner

2018-10-27 17:10:38 UTC  

If the gov't uses tax dollars then they are manipulating the market

2018-10-27 17:10:59 UTC  

Depends on what they do with those tax dollars

2018-10-27 17:10:59 UTC  

That's not pure capitalism

2018-10-27 17:11:41 UTC  

The point behind a state (IE the difference between an ancap and a libertarian) is that you have an organization that handles force

2018-10-27 17:12:10 UTC  

This is so that you have a singular, fair set of laws, and an expectation of enforcement. This exists due to market need

2018-10-27 17:13:29 UTC  

The more the government manipulates the market, the less pure it is. Hence what i was saying about a mix being needed. It sounds like we're not far apart.

2018-10-27 17:14:53 UTC  

Again, it depends on what the government does. If there's no market for something due to lack of ROI and people create an organization that does this task, that's still totally fine within the market

2018-10-27 17:15:34 UTC  

Not everything needs to be privately, personally held and controlled in a capitalist system. Capitalism is simply a "do what you wish" methodology

2018-10-27 17:15:34 UTC  

Again, I come back to health care.

2018-10-27 17:16:01 UTC  

How do you square the circle of not letting people die untreated but leaving it to the market?