Message from @DrYuriMom

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2018-10-27 03:12:27 UTC  

I do have a problem with them classifying stuff there coming from "hate crimes".

2018-10-27 03:13:40 UTC  

theodemocratic... only the gods get to vote?

2018-10-27 03:14:40 UTC  

It is a fusion of democracy with divine right

2018-10-27 03:15:06 UTC  

Such that democratic values are equivalent to religious values.

2018-10-27 03:16:09 UTC  

Should be combined with Theonomous principles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theonomy

2018-10-27 03:16:22 UTC  

"hate crime"
what that even means. just anti freedom of speech...

2018-10-27 03:17:29 UTC  

Since when are incels white supremacists? can anyone tell me when that happened because i really dont pay any attention to the whole incel thing

2018-10-27 03:18:12 UTC  

Direct democracy at a local level with representative democracy at the state level. Representatives are composed of a class called the Polis who gain there position through a minimum two years service to the State along with continued obligations alongside their responsibility.

2018-10-27 03:18:42 UTC  

The Polis in turn would be the main elective body of the federal level.

2018-10-27 03:19:51 UTC  

Populism is upheld through nationalist policies like Sphere of Popularity and Solidarity Economics

2018-10-27 03:20:54 UTC  

sounds nasty

2018-10-27 03:21:01 UTC  

you would need to abolish current media companies.
or they would have the power to manipulate peoples belives like right now.

2018-10-27 03:21:37 UTC  

most people are too stupid to understand politics

2018-10-27 14:07:48 UTC  

If you believe that, you need to start working to reduce democratic influence in the country.

2018-10-27 14:18:25 UTC  

Would it be any different if you had a King instead of a President??

2018-10-27 14:18:50 UTC  

would suck if it was something like George B. or Angela M. but rock if it was someone like Ron or Rand.

2018-10-27 14:20:46 UTC  

How does the philosophical underpinning of Theonomy differ from Sharia, @Dvir ?

2018-10-27 14:22:18 UTC  

Government by holy text seems pretty suspect unless you happen to have a nation made entirely of adherents to one exact interpretation of that holy text.

2018-10-27 14:22:36 UTC  

And heaven help anyone who comes along and feels differently.

2018-10-27 14:24:55 UTC  

Most of Heinlein's future history was based on the US becoming and then overcoming a theocracy in the early 21st century. Ironically the Latter Day Saints were part of the resistance because the theocracy was not THIER theocracy.

2018-10-27 17:04:33 UTC  

Let's talk my favorite subject. Health care. Is pure capitalism a good thing for health care?

2018-10-27 17:05:34 UTC  

As stated prior, @DrYuriMom , what do you mean when you say "pure capitalism"

2018-10-27 17:06:07 UTC  

The invisible hand. Market forces handle everything with little or no regulation.

2018-10-27 17:06:17 UTC  

No minimum wage

2018-10-27 17:06:27 UTC  

No tax structure to encourage some things and discourage others

2018-10-27 17:06:33 UTC  

No state enterprises

2018-10-27 17:07:08 UTC  

What stops people from banding together and making an organization that handles healthcare as a single payer or hybrid system?

2018-10-27 17:07:08 UTC  

People pay for it individually or it doesn't happen

2018-10-27 17:07:31 UTC  

If done individually by choice, nothing.

2018-10-27 17:07:44 UTC  

But if government does it, that's socialism, right?

2018-10-27 17:08:09 UTC  

Not necessarily no. You've read Hayek yes?

2018-10-27 17:08:55 UTC  

Socialism is explicitly the relegation of all resources to a "dictatorship of the proletariat", whatever form that may take

2018-10-27 17:09:40 UTC  

You could make the argument that an enforced monopoly is a sort of "sector socialism" I suppose, but there's no incompatibility with the government competing with the market

2018-10-27 17:10:24 UTC  

I think the only real exception here are things where you're going to inevitably have a monopoly anyway- a lot of infrastructural improvements work in this manner

2018-10-27 17:10:38 UTC  

If the gov't uses tax dollars then they are manipulating the market

2018-10-27 17:10:59 UTC  

Depends on what they do with those tax dollars

2018-10-27 17:10:59 UTC  

That's not pure capitalism

2018-10-27 17:11:41 UTC  

The point behind a state (IE the difference between an ancap and a libertarian) is that you have an organization that handles force

2018-10-27 17:12:10 UTC  

This is so that you have a singular, fair set of laws, and an expectation of enforcement. This exists due to market need

2018-10-27 17:13:29 UTC  

The more the government manipulates the market, the less pure it is. Hence what i was saying about a mix being needed. It sounds like we're not far apart.