Message from @Grenade123

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2018-10-28 01:44:46 UTC  

They respect and love their culture

2018-10-28 01:45:08 UTC  

Also I didnt mean it negatively so no need te be defensive

2018-10-28 01:45:21 UTC  

if by "fear of being overrun by immigrants" you mean hate any and all immigrants all together then yes?

2018-10-28 01:45:25 UTC  

xenophobia is believing the existence of other peoples is a threat to your own, especially when existing in proximity.

2018-10-28 01:45:29 UTC  

Its easier to say xenophobic than being nationalistic and wanting to preserve it

2018-10-28 01:46:04 UTC  

they dislike people not their own

2018-10-28 01:46:16 UTC  

China is the best example of xenophobic country meeting a bitter demise over a century long period.

2018-10-28 01:46:17 UTC  

they might like you, even admire you....but from over there

2018-10-28 01:46:19 UTC  

Well thats pretty much japan. They just dont like non japs in their country

2018-10-28 01:46:23 UTC  

you can be over there

2018-10-28 01:46:33 UTC  

But they dont mind if you visit

2018-10-28 01:46:56 UTC  

exactly, "hey, i love you guys....but ah, just stand over there. go be awesome people over there"

2018-10-28 01:47:05 UTC  

In fact they love visitors, just dont live there

2018-10-28 01:47:28 UTC  

they have a problem with classism tho

2018-10-28 01:47:56 UTC  

like they literally treat their garbage men and people like that as second class citizens if i remember

2018-10-28 01:48:08 UTC  

BE SALARYMAN!

2018-10-28 01:48:15 UTC  

Think you mixing them up with china

2018-10-28 01:48:48 UTC  

They do have shitty jobs though. Just never heard of their classist system.

2018-10-28 01:48:53 UTC  

you sure? because china treats everyone as second class citizens if you are not part of the government lol

2018-10-28 01:49:06 UTC  

the UK has a classist culture

2018-10-28 01:49:15 UTC  

culture, not system

2018-10-28 01:49:32 UTC  

I meant chinese. They the sort to say if you dont study, you become garbageman

2018-10-28 01:49:32 UTC  

they are not literally second class citizens, they are just treated like that

2018-10-28 01:49:49 UTC  

And I see alot of thay even in singapore and malaysi

2018-10-28 01:49:56 UTC  

i think that might be a trend in asian countries

2018-10-28 01:50:02 UTC  

like period

2018-10-28 01:50:20 UTC  

part of that "get educated or you are failure" mentality found in a lot of them

2018-10-28 01:50:45 UTC  

view things like farming and garbage collecting as bad.

2018-10-28 01:51:13 UTC  

which i find very ironic, given that should either of those jobs just stop being done, things get very uncivilized very quickly

2018-10-28 01:51:16 UTC  

Menial jobs ypu mean

2018-10-28 01:51:33 UTC  

If they made farming more machine based

2018-10-28 01:51:52 UTC  

like we could live with less CEOs, but farmers and garbage men?

2018-10-28 01:51:53 UTC  

Or automated it and had you handle the machines that stigmas gona move elsewhere

2018-10-28 01:53:52 UTC  

They just percieve those jobs as simple for the uneducated

2018-10-28 01:59:36 UTC  

Anyway japan does a really good job at exporting their culture so it kinda feels silly to move there for it.

2018-10-28 02:00:51 UTC  

I mean their work culture sucks so bad that their currently best selling works of fiction are either based in highschool, scifi/fantasy or isekai.

2018-10-28 02:01:56 UTC  

I had a japanese exchange student who spent a month in nz who was shocked at how relaxed everyone was and dreaded going back to japan.

2018-10-28 02:05:05 UTC  

yeah, my family did homestay alot and we mostly had asians (mostly korean).

all of them really didn't want to go back

2018-10-28 02:41:42 UTC  

I see someone mentioned China. They have a very long historical struggle with religious institutions. That is why they are only 7% religious(last i checked). Vietnam is also an exception because many people are actually religious (or at least superstitious) but they have to practice it in secret due to harsh state laws

2018-10-28 02:42:39 UTC  

China is the only one that doesn’t fit this pattern simply because of it’s exclusive history of religious conflict

2018-10-28 03:03:28 UTC  

Um, what religious conflict?