Message from @DrYuriMom

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2018-10-30 19:46:44 UTC  

yeah

2018-10-30 19:47:54 UTC  

there was a black dude who was inside it but survived the collapse, i think he said he heard explosions from the basement
he died mysteriously shortly after starting to go public

2018-10-30 19:48:22 UTC  

barry jennings

2018-10-30 19:49:05 UTC  

did the Clinton's kill him? always fun to add the clintons to stories of government killings

2018-10-30 19:50:57 UTC  

some PI was hired to investigate his death, but he got scared and quit

2018-10-30 19:52:13 UTC  

yeah, my memory is foggy, but i think he called his client back and said dont ever call me again

2018-10-30 19:52:15 UTC  

gonna investigate that, you need the KGB at your back....but they you have the KGB at your back

2018-10-30 19:53:18 UTC  

yeah for a while i thought we would find something

2018-10-30 19:53:46 UTC  

barry? heart attack i think

2018-10-30 19:54:36 UTC  

with multiple stab wounds to the back like that one guy who committed suicide?

2018-10-30 19:55:05 UTC  

Put 5 rounds in the back of his own head Clinton style.

2018-10-30 19:55:10 UTC  

heh
im not sure what info about his death is available

2018-10-30 19:59:57 UTC  
2018-10-30 20:14:40 UTC  

probably mostly a concern if you're either an original source, or have a large following
and before they are desperate enough to kill you they first do media smearing, threats, gangstalking, and corrupt legal action

2018-10-30 20:16:23 UTC  

i think they used to just plant drugs in your apartment, but the new trend is charging you with sex crimes instead

2018-10-30 20:23:17 UTC  

wonder what would happen if you used a political rival to the main stream with some power to investigate it

2018-10-30 21:21:17 UTC  

Looking at the discussion above I have to again ask is there a place between communism and pure capitalism where it might be rational to land? I keep coming back to health care and the now growing opinion of the US electorate that they have a "right" to standard-of-care (best available) treatment for their heart attack, stroke, or cancer. I deal with this all the time at work. No one wants to be allowed to pass even when they have a low likelihood of survival with additional (expensive) treatment. How will people take to being told their husband would have an 80% chance of complete recovery but you don't have $50,000 and therefore we're going to let him die? Currently we have government mechanism to prevent that scenario - Medicaid, the ACA, etc. If we go 100% "personal responsibility" I would assume these mechanisms would be sunsetted?

2018-10-30 21:22:27 UTC  

If you can't pay you either get sub-par treatment and/or you die?

2018-10-30 21:24:54 UTC  

I personally am a free market liberalist, but like one of my personal heroes, Winston Churchill, there seem to be sectors of the economy where a little collective responsibility seems more palatable in an industrial or post-industrial culture.

2018-10-30 21:25:43 UTC  

The question whose answer I'm still not sure of, and neither was Winnie, is how much and in what form?

2018-10-30 21:27:39 UTC  

Short answer yes.

2018-10-30 21:29:31 UTC  

I firmly believe you can have a a capitalistic free market encompassing tax funded single payer health care system without overtaxing the population.

2018-10-30 21:31:55 UTC  

But we see nations with a mixed system of government and private financing doing a better job on much less. Japan has the highest life expectancy and lowest infant mortality in the world and yet they spend 2/3 on health care as the US. Germany has some similar stats.

2018-10-30 21:32:45 UTC  

So V, you support something like the ACA which provides for universal coverage?

2018-10-30 21:33:18 UTC  

I mean per capita

2018-10-30 21:33:43 UTC  

You spoke of insurance, though.

2018-10-30 21:33:59 UTC  

Yes, it is.

2018-10-30 21:34:19 UTC  

With subsidies to assist those of lesser means to obtain it.

2018-10-30 21:34:26 UTC  

I'll just say, population will make it cheaper. Economies of scale.

2018-10-30 21:34:35 UTC  

The ACA is based on a Republican model.

2018-10-30 21:35:19 UTC  

But we're bigger than Japan and German but spend half again per capita for worse results

2018-10-30 21:36:36 UTC  

The ACA provides for people to spend no more than 10% of their income on an actuarial basis on health care up to a certain point. the biggest flaw of the ACA was that the point chosen was not high enough.

2018-10-30 21:38:05 UTC  

Japan = 2 deaths per 1000 live births

2018-10-30 21:38:32 UTC  

US - 5.87 infant deaths per 1000 live births

2018-10-30 21:39:31 UTC  

Yes, that is true

2018-10-30 21:39:37 UTC  

And the US has an obesity epidemic

2018-10-30 21:39:44 UTC  

I totally agree with this