Message from @Grenade123

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2018-11-02 15:09:18 UTC  

I supppose by a strict definition yes (though one could argue the part of 'at the host's expense').

2018-11-02 15:09:41 UTC  

As I stated earlier, having sex is like signing a contract

2018-11-02 15:09:45 UTC  

Going offline soon, see you when I can.

2018-11-02 15:09:57 UTC  

If the girl gets pregnant than you have a baby

2018-11-02 15:10:08 UTC  

you have the choice to attach a parasite. you can take a leech and let it attach.

2018-11-02 15:10:23 UTC  

having sex is that same choice, although it includes making the leech too.

2018-11-02 15:10:49 UTC  

now, a leech can live without a host, a developing human cannot.

2018-11-02 15:10:58 UTC  

Having sex is not attaching a parasite

2018-11-02 15:11:02 UTC  

well, not until about 7 months anyway (or was it 6?)

2018-11-02 15:11:07 UTC  

Its signing a contract

2018-11-02 15:11:38 UTC  

Even then, Grenade, a human is dependant on aid for its survival for at least several years, and usually far longer.

2018-11-02 15:11:49 UTC  

yes, but it doesn;t require the mother

2018-11-02 15:11:54 UTC  

specifically, the mothers body

2018-11-02 15:12:08 UTC  

you can pass it around to other people

2018-11-02 15:12:48 UTC  

which is why i think the ability to transplant fetus, and artificial wombs, would solve the problem. Fetus doesn't die, women gets to remove a parasite

2018-11-02 15:13:12 UTC  

My point being having sex signs a contract that if a baby were to happen then you must take responsibility

2018-11-02 15:13:34 UTC  

You dont consent to the baby

2018-11-02 15:13:34 UTC  

That seems congruous with current social norms.

2018-11-02 15:13:41 UTC  

well, then you believe you can sign away the rights to your body

2018-11-02 15:13:54 UTC  

You consent to contract of life if you decide to partake in sex

2018-11-02 15:13:55 UTC  

and cannot take those rights back ever

2018-11-02 15:14:01 UTC  

until the contract is through

2018-11-02 15:14:12 UTC  

Yes, that would be the point of a contract.

2018-11-02 15:14:25 UTC  

a contract can be nulled

2018-11-02 15:14:26 UTC  

Yeah, a contract must be followed

2018-11-02 15:14:31 UTC  

this one, cannot.

2018-11-02 15:14:51 UTC  

for example, if undo harm happens outside the scope of the contract

2018-11-02 15:14:52 UTC  

Can a contract by definition be nulled, or are there some contracts that cannot be rescinded?

2018-11-02 15:15:15 UTC  

depends on if you believe contracts overcome all rights really

2018-11-02 15:15:23 UTC  

They do

2018-11-02 15:15:47 UTC  

if a contract says you must server as a slave, and to stop being a slave you will be shot, then you have signed away your right to life

2018-11-02 15:15:52 UTC  

If they didn't then truth would be invalid in society

2018-11-02 15:16:16 UTC  

If you agree to any term of service, you are to uphold it

2018-11-02 15:16:27 UTC  

now there is a problem, contracts between people need both people to consent, and the baby can't consent

2018-11-02 15:16:29 UTC  

Breaking that, leads to prison

2018-11-02 15:16:34 UTC  

technically that is an invalid contract

2018-11-02 15:17:14 UTC  

this doesn't necessarily give the mother the right to kill the baby

2018-11-02 15:17:21 UTC  

I mean if anyone was stupid enough to sign their life away I guess

2018-11-02 15:17:49 UTC  

My point being that sex is like signing that contract

2018-11-02 15:17:57 UTC  

with who?

2018-11-02 15:18:05 UTC  

the baby literally was not present