Message from @Grenade123
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Never said it wasn't?
I'm sorry, Grenade, I was asking your position on when life began. What are you talking about when you're saying something is to be avoided if at all possible?
It acts as a parasite would
no, but if i have the choice to attach a parasite, why do i lose the choice to remove it?
@Bookworm story, this started on abortion. and i believe abortion is not a form of birth control
Becuase you dont have the choice to attach one
although avoiding creating human life at all possible would solve all human problems
can't have human problems without humans.
I supppose by a strict definition yes (though one could argue the part of 'at the host's expense').
As I stated earlier, having sex is like signing a contract
Going offline soon, see you when I can.
If the girl gets pregnant than you have a baby
you have the choice to attach a parasite. you can take a leech and let it attach.
having sex is that same choice, although it includes making the leech too.
now, a leech can live without a host, a developing human cannot.
Having sex is not attaching a parasite
well, not until about 7 months anyway (or was it 6?)
Its signing a contract
Even then, Grenade, a human is dependant on aid for its survival for at least several years, and usually far longer.
yes, but it doesn;t require the mother
you can pass it around to other people
which is why i think the ability to transplant fetus, and artificial wombs, would solve the problem. Fetus doesn't die, women gets to remove a parasite
My point being having sex signs a contract that if a baby were to happen then you must take responsibility
You dont consent to the baby
That seems congruous with current social norms.
well, then you believe you can sign away the rights to your body
You consent to contract of life if you decide to partake in sex
and cannot take those rights back ever
until the contract is through
Yes, that would be the point of a contract.
a contract can be nulled
Yeah, a contract must be followed
this one, cannot.
for example, if undo harm happens outside the scope of the contract
Can a contract by definition be nulled, or are there some contracts that cannot be rescinded?
depends on if you believe contracts overcome all rights really
They do
if a contract says you must server as a slave, and to stop being a slave you will be shot, then you have signed away your right to life
If they didn't then truth would be invalid in society
If you agree to any term of service, you are to uphold it