Message from @Malt_Hitman
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so, private manufacterers fulfilling lucrative government deals that already have to abide by every government regulation?
if cybernetics and transhumanism ever did become a issue within modern day (and it probably will within our life time dont get me wrong) i think we can all agree to something such as the FDA but for cybernetics
We'll probably have genetic manipulation before cybernetics.
well.."Effective" cybernetics
I disagree on the bases that I don't believe augments should be consumerized, the societal ramifications would be severe. It would become the ultimate technocratic plutocracy where those with the best augments are dominant.
Gene-Therapy should be handled in a similar manner.
if people can afford better augments, and a seller has a higher quality augment in which to sell, the transaction should be allowed. but like much tech, in a free market that tech will become less high quality and eventually drop in price to the point the majority of consumers may buy it
There would be pretty strong motivation to not consumerize genetic manipulation.
genetic manipulation is much more tricky, who can we trust to play with our genes? how much can we play with our genes until we are "playing god"?
Some rich motherfucker spends a billion to develop a Methuselah mod and lives forever. Compound interest working over a thousand lifetimes. So long as he's one of a tiny number of Methuselahs he'll have massive power. If everyone lives forever he's nothing. Money wasted.
Concept is explored in the takeshi kovacs books and in the commonwealth saga.
That's why America keeps an Anti-trust law in place (which I wish we used more often) as well as the fact there does need to be some regulation such as the ban on augments or manipulation to increase lifespan
Once you climb that ladder you have strong motivation to pull the ladder up after you.
If i'm a god why would I be incentivized to make others gods?
Did the Gods give man fire willingly, or did Prometheus have to steal it away for them?
There actually is a rather good "young adult" book that covers the type of world your explaining Atkins. I remember it's title being "scythe" where everyone lives forever, so a organization was created to "gleam" some people every year to decrease population
The human psyche wasn't made for immortality, people think they want to live forever but I wonder how they would feel when they are a hundred, or two hundred.
And again, that's why I believe in a not TOTAL lazie faire system for cybernetics or Gene manipulation, there needs to be regulation to some degree along with proactive use of anti-trust laws
I think everyone who lives long enough comes to the realization that they do not want to live forever.
It also goes into that to some degree along with the fact we gain much of our perception of "beauty" and emotion from our mortality
Humanity may not have been built for immortality but the more society progresses we alleviate the old hurdles with technology.
I could imagine if we do somehow achieve immortality that hibernation will become a thing. Where eventually people will just enter into a torpor only to be risen if direly needed for whatever reason.
Memery. Immortals would likely enter into a state of long-term memery. Shitposting online to fill the time of their immortal lives.
If we reach the point of immortality, assisted Suicide would have to be allowed for those who are simply don't living
As money becomes meaningless to the immortals, only knowledge of ancient arcane memes acts as a viable show of status
Why kill them? Just entomb them in stasis.
Social hierarchy reverts to a /b/ like state
The true meme economy arises
We can only hope to see an Immortal Meme Economy in our lifetimes.
No, I want my populist theodemocratic republic.
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I'll trade you 2 pepe and a handjob for that loaf of bread
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Automation has replaced most, if not all jobs. Wealthy, thousand year old oligarchs make the rules, having purchased everything they need to run an autonomous society. Given their long lifespan, they've basically mastered anything they have the slightest interest in, and now merely seek some form of entertainment. You are a humble meme farmer attempting to please eldritch ubermensch NEETs so your family can move out of that tiny apartment and into a house in the country
Given how people lose skill in things they haven't done in awhile, i'm guessing as time went on people would become more and more easily bored and slowly devolve into a state of less and less mastery until everyone was a vegetable in front of a screen or in a virtual reality designed to alleviate their boredom and they will have lost basically all skill mastery they ever had
Sounds like the Matrix
We're all just invalids cared for by the machines our ancestors built
Man I wish I can live a NEET existence with robot butler satisfying my every needs
get an npc butler
```"The vigorous man industriously striving for the improvement of his condition acts neither more nor less than the lethargic man who sluggishly takes things as they come. For to do nothing and to be idle are also action, they too determine the course of events. Wherever the conditions for human interference are present, man acts no matter whether he interferes or refrains from interfering."
-Ludwig von Mises.```
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