Message from @Dvir

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2018-11-06 02:31:13 UTC  

Concept is explored in the takeshi kovacs books and in the commonwealth saga.

2018-11-06 02:31:26 UTC  

That's why America keeps an Anti-trust law in place (which I wish we used more often) as well as the fact there does need to be some regulation such as the ban on augments or manipulation to increase lifespan

2018-11-06 02:31:40 UTC  

Once you climb that ladder you have strong motivation to pull the ladder up after you.

2018-11-06 02:32:06 UTC  

If i'm a god why would I be incentivized to make others gods?

2018-11-06 02:32:20 UTC  

Did the Gods give man fire willingly, or did Prometheus have to steal it away for them?

2018-11-06 02:32:56 UTC  

There actually is a rather good "young adult" book that covers the type of world your explaining Atkins. I remember it's title being "scythe" where everyone lives forever, so a organization was created to "gleam" some people every year to decrease population

2018-11-06 02:33:54 UTC  

The human psyche wasn't made for immortality, people think they want to live forever but I wonder how they would feel when they are a hundred, or two hundred.

2018-11-06 02:34:15 UTC  

And again, that's why I believe in a not TOTAL lazie faire system for cybernetics or Gene manipulation, there needs to be regulation to some degree along with proactive use of anti-trust laws

2018-11-06 02:34:24 UTC  

I think everyone who lives long enough comes to the realization that they do not want to live forever.

2018-11-06 02:34:45 UTC  

It also goes into that to some degree along with the fact we gain much of our perception of "beauty" and emotion from our mortality

2018-11-06 02:35:26 UTC  

Humanity may not have been built for immortality but the more society progresses we alleviate the old hurdles with technology.

2018-11-06 02:36:14 UTC  

I could imagine if we do somehow achieve immortality that hibernation will become a thing. Where eventually people will just enter into a torpor only to be risen if direly needed for whatever reason.

2018-11-06 02:37:11 UTC  

Memery. Immortals would likely enter into a state of long-term memery. Shitposting online to fill the time of their immortal lives.

2018-11-06 02:38:01 UTC  

If we reach the point of immortality, assisted Suicide would have to be allowed for those who are simply don't living

2018-11-06 02:38:44 UTC  

As money becomes meaningless to the immortals, only knowledge of ancient arcane memes acts as a viable show of status

2018-11-06 02:38:57 UTC  

Why kill them? Just entomb them in stasis.

2018-11-06 02:39:08 UTC  

Social hierarchy reverts to a /b/ like state

2018-11-06 02:39:13 UTC  

The true meme economy arises

2018-11-06 02:40:03 UTC  

We can only hope to see an Immortal Meme Economy in our lifetimes.

2018-11-06 02:44:32 UTC  

No, I want my populist theodemocratic republic.

2018-11-06 02:44:48 UTC  

2018-11-06 08:35:48 UTC  

I'll trade you 2 pepe and a handjob for that loaf of bread

2018-11-06 13:30:57 UTC  

More like this:
Automation has replaced most, if not all jobs. Wealthy, thousand year old oligarchs make the rules, having purchased everything they need to run an autonomous society. Given their long lifespan, they've basically mastered anything they have the slightest interest in, and now merely seek some form of entertainment. You are a humble meme farmer attempting to please eldritch ubermensch NEETs so your family can move out of that tiny apartment and into a house in the country

2018-11-06 19:44:24 UTC  

Given how people lose skill in things they haven't done in awhile, i'm guessing as time went on people would become more and more easily bored and slowly devolve into a state of less and less mastery until everyone was a vegetable in front of a screen or in a virtual reality designed to alleviate their boredom and they will have lost basically all skill mastery they ever had

2018-11-06 20:21:06 UTC  

Sounds like the Matrix

2018-11-06 20:21:44 UTC  

We're all just invalids cared for by the machines our ancestors built

2018-11-06 22:13:49 UTC  

Man I wish I can live a NEET existence with robot butler satisfying my every needs

2018-11-06 23:40:11 UTC  

get an npc butler

2018-11-07 03:34:14 UTC  

```"The vigorous man industriously striving for the improvement of his condition acts neither more nor less than the lethargic man who sluggishly takes things as they come. For to do nothing and to be idle are also action, they too determine the course of events. Wherever the conditions for human interference are present, man acts no matter whether he interferes or refrains from interfering."
-Ludwig von Mises.```

2018-11-07 07:51:07 UTC  

Americans. Have you ever witnessed your lord and saviour Yuri Bezmenov? You will need him now more than ever.

2018-11-07 14:25:06 UTC  

@Torpid so basically wall-e

2018-11-08 00:45:05 UTC  

some things about the superintelligent machine im pretty sure this is about human like concious AI and we indeed can't stop anyone from making it, i am however 100% sure that it will be a garantueed end of human life no matter how fucking rich you are what color your skin in is wheter you actually like trump or think he is a nazi .If an AI like a mentioned comes to exist it will have no reason to keep us humans alive as we have done absolutely nothing good over the last ages for our planet

2018-11-08 00:45:57 UTC  

if an AI like that comes to exist we (humans and i mean every single one of you no matter how many guns you have or bunkers you have in your backyard) you will be seen as a virus and squashed

2018-11-08 00:46:15 UTC  

but the most important thing is to always stay positive

2018-11-08 01:32:41 UTC  

Hard IF, if Democrats fall in line with Palosi's speech should Democrats gain more seats 2020

2018-11-08 01:33:34 UTC  

Democrats speeches typically are bullshit but for the sake of argument assume it's true.

2018-11-08 01:39:29 UTC  

I have no idea what she said. If she's talking impeachment or tax records than it's not a good sign for the Dems. Heck, if she becomes Speaker it's a terrible sign because it means at least some of the new House Dems lied on campaign.

2018-11-08 01:39:48 UTC  

See my comments in Free-For-All

2018-11-08 02:58:38 UTC  

I mean talks of coming together across the aisle, rebuilding infrastructure, cleaning up corruption, lower prices of prescription drugs, reduction of "dark interest money" in electronics, transparency and openness in Congress, finding common ground, ending division, unity

2018-11-08 03:00:03 UTC  

Other things she said were mainly wrestling control away from Trump, question is how much of a distraction will that be from the rest of her stated goals and are other Democrats on board with the stuff that sounds positive.