Message from @Stefan Payne

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2018-11-15 17:09:05 UTC  

if it is a market where you need billions to enter, no

2018-11-15 17:09:32 UTC  

In what market?

2018-11-15 17:10:08 UTC  

As I previously stated they are the Atlas of society it is how much they are valued

2018-11-15 17:11:53 UTC  

Yet you wanna hold them at gun point

2018-11-15 17:12:11 UTC  

FOR PRICEFIXING!

2018-11-15 17:12:21 UTC  

Which the government also does

2018-11-15 17:12:34 UTC  

Isnt that anti competition

2018-11-15 17:12:46 UTC  
2018-11-15 17:13:50 UTC  

These laws are also not objective

2018-11-15 17:15:20 UTC  

nothing is but your free market definition is horse shit and makes no sense.

2018-11-15 17:15:33 UTC  

you need rules and enforce them.

2018-11-15 17:15:37 UTC  

LUL

2018-11-15 17:15:45 UTC  

So very cynical

2018-11-15 17:15:46 UTC  

You won't play a Football game without a Referee either.

2018-11-15 17:16:07 UTC  

Thats different because no ones rights can be harmed in a free market

2018-11-15 17:16:25 UTC  

Which rights yes are enforced by government

2018-11-15 17:16:47 UTC  

But you never refuted anything I said

2018-11-15 17:17:37 UTC  

Even actual criminals have a more objective set of laws

2018-11-15 17:18:07 UTC  

You're essentially advocating for "right of the strongest" and that every Company can abuse the power and do everything they can to get money out of the pocket of the people.

2018-11-15 17:18:42 UTC  

Like I said before all monopolies came from government or got dismantled with time

2018-11-15 17:18:58 UTC  

no

2018-11-15 17:19:18 UTC  

if there were no rules, there would have been no Compaq, Dell and co

2018-11-15 17:19:55 UTC  

Yes the rules being force and market separated until someones rights are violated

2018-11-15 17:20:01 UTC  

*are

2018-11-15 17:23:18 UTC  

Yes and now you need a market that's protected by Patents and needs billions of dollars to enter.

2018-11-15 17:24:01 UTC  

And the primary source can just bribe the manufacturers to not use other stuff than theirs....

2018-11-15 17:24:39 UTC  

So in short: you need the Rules and to enforce it, so that such things do not happen.

2018-11-15 17:27:43 UTC  

Wow, I'm in agreement with Stefan for the third time today and it's not even lunchtime. The end times are most certainly upon us. 🙀

2018-11-15 17:28:14 UTC  

Yeah, one of those Examples would be Microsoft ^^

2018-11-15 17:28:33 UTC  

And Google (Android)

2018-11-15 17:29:37 UTC  

So free market means that everyone plays to the same rules and doesn't abuse or misuse the power given by the market.

2018-11-15 17:31:23 UTC  

Now, after M$ left the Mobile Phone OS Market, Google was forced in the EU to charge money for Android.
M$ always charged for mobile Windows.

2018-11-15 17:31:49 UTC  

Who enforces the rules?

2018-11-15 17:39:48 UTC  

Im back

2018-11-15 17:40:25 UTC  

These arguments dont have any basis to them

2018-11-15 17:40:56 UTC  

It rests on it requires a lot of money to get in without defining why it takes that much

2018-11-15 17:41:09 UTC  

Saying that it happens without government

2018-11-15 17:42:07 UTC  
2018-11-15 17:42:52 UTC  

So google Monopoly happened with Gouvernment? How so?

2018-11-15 17:43:21 UTC  

and Microsoft?

2018-11-15 17:43:22 UTC  

They still have competitors