Message from @Grenade123

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2018-11-17 19:20:07 UTC  

Its important to know sex for DNA testing in crimes. If cops find male DNA at crime scene, but license says female someone might get dismissed incorrectly.

2018-11-17 19:20:59 UTC  

a rare scenario for sure, but still.

2018-11-17 19:52:20 UTC  

@grant exact opposite problem still happens if witnesses say they saw someone who looked female but only evidence they found says male.

2018-11-17 19:54:10 UTC  

Sure, but lets just add to that problem.

2018-11-17 19:57:29 UTC  

It doesn't add to the problem

2018-11-17 19:58:00 UTC  

If you look at my proposed solution, it should prevent that lazy police work

2018-11-17 19:58:11 UTC  

Androgen insensitivity syndrome. Born female phenotype but male genotype

2018-11-17 19:59:21 UTC  

Also, if you have DNA, then you should be getting that person dna to try and rule them out of other potential dna samples found @ @grant.

2018-11-17 19:59:35 UTC  

One thing I found published by the American Intersex Association claims one in one hundred Americans are born Intersex (various conditions)

2018-11-17 20:00:27 UTC  

So one in one hundred are truely non-binary, the rest well this is the debate channel

2018-11-17 20:00:27 UTC  

That'd be a whole lot of Americans.

2018-11-17 20:00:29 UTC  

If I remember right there was some info showing they manipulated that number to be larger than it should be.

2018-11-17 20:01:19 UTC  

Cops don't just DNA everybody. they DNA top suspects. Person whos legal ID says they don't match the gender would probably be ruled out before then.

2018-11-17 20:01:27 UTC  

Pendell, they list about fifty conditions that make someone "Intersex" so that is an in total number.

2018-11-17 20:02:00 UTC  

You 'd have to retrain all police to know sex on id cards no longer mean anything

2018-11-17 20:02:04 UTC  

@grant except why would they be looking at Id for the sex and not the name?

2018-11-17 20:02:43 UTC  

And how often would that be a problem?

2018-11-17 20:03:52 UTC  

Hey, look at that I already covered that when I made my first statement: *a rare scenario for sure, but still.*

2018-11-17 20:04:12 UTC  

Subject a small portion of the population to more problems because of an even smaller subset of that population might cause problems?

2018-11-17 20:04:29 UTC  

Or use my solution which is remove it from IDs entirely

2018-11-17 20:04:38 UTC  

Since it doesn't seem to have a purpose

2018-11-17 20:04:55 UTC  

Not that you necessarily will trust me on this, but no one would mistake me for a man.

2018-11-17 20:05:39 UTC  

I'm your average 50yo female now

2018-11-17 20:06:18 UTC  

@Grenade123 Good luck with that. Even the trans activists don't want that. They want it as an issue to beat people with.

2018-11-17 20:06:49 UTC  

Its the same issue with marriage

2018-11-17 20:07:17 UTC  

Government should get out of it entirely, but no one wanted that

2018-11-17 20:07:18 UTC  

Vote Ben Shaprio in via write in with Dave Rubin as vp. They'll get it done, lol

2018-11-17 20:07:45 UTC  

Yeah as soon as you convince a majority of people to be reasonable

2018-11-17 20:07:53 UTC  

Honestly, my skin in this game is that I don't want to be held with guys if I'm arrested due to a misunderstanding. I have C cups and a vagina. Not a pretty picture.

2018-11-17 20:08:14 UTC  

And guys really wouldn't feel comfortable with me in thier space

2018-11-17 20:08:20 UTC  

Think Blair White or the like

2018-11-17 20:08:35 UTC  

Guys don't feel comfortable with other guys.

2018-11-17 20:08:35 UTC  

I don't think guys in a line up would care

2018-11-17 20:21:52 UTC  

In a jail cell?

2018-11-17 20:21:58 UTC  

A bathroom?

2018-11-17 20:24:11 UTC  

A country that doesn't like trans?

2018-11-17 20:39:30 UTC  

People aren't countries, they're individuals.

2018-11-17 20:40:26 UTC  

Unless you're talking about a country that doesn't like trains. Then I fully understand.

2018-11-17 20:52:46 UTC  

A country that doesn't like trans? Or a country that doesn't like government force being used to force them into a world view?

2018-11-17 20:53:35 UTC  

Where they don't want the government dictating that a church should wed a same sex couple when that is against the congregations beliefs?

2018-11-17 21:12:51 UTC  

Only the worst on the left wants to force a church to wed anyone