Message from @H E C K

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2018-11-19 03:00:22 UTC  

attacking verbally i presume given its screenshots of messages

2018-11-19 03:00:31 UTC  

But agian, nothing of this surprises me

2018-11-19 03:01:51 UTC  

but in the end theyre still a bunch of fucking desksitting pandering cowards.
When push comes to shove, these people will be hiding in their basements as shit starts happening.

2018-11-19 03:02:04 UTC  

you're not getting it man

2018-11-19 03:02:20 UTC  

i don't expect google database nerds to kick down my door.

2018-11-19 03:02:38 UTC  

i expect google database nerds to tell others *where my door is*

2018-11-19 03:03:23 UTC  

and there are plenty of violent fuckers in antifa, and they don't have to be big or well trained to shoot you as you run from your burning house at 3AM

2018-11-19 03:06:02 UTC  

I know but none of this is new to me

2018-11-19 03:06:39 UTC  

but when you describe a civil war, i took it as you saying when shit hits the fan these people will be there

2018-11-19 03:06:48 UTC  

hence what i said

2018-11-19 03:07:15 UTC  

the fasci, i mean antifa will be there sure

2018-11-19 03:10:04 UTC  

But i very much see a lot of these people as being incredibly vapid with not single original thought in their heads. Conditioned as people tend to say.
Theres just nothing in there nor do they have any reflecting capabilities to realize what theyre doing is in fact engaging in fascist behavior.

2018-11-19 03:10:36 UTC  

But anyway this whole thing went completely off topic and i need to sleep so im out.

2018-11-19 04:34:45 UTC  

Personally, I don't understand how all these IT folks got radicalized. I'm currently going to college for computer programming, and pretty much everyone in my classes as well as the professors are center-left and center-right. Some of them have even openly mocked political correctness in front of the class. Not to mention this is a Canadian college, which is where Google and other silicon valley companies tend to go looking for talent. Where do you guys think the radicalization happens?

2018-11-19 04:36:52 UTC  

The companies themselves. California.

Really, the fact is that the intolerant minority sets the tone for the silent majority. This is a fact since the beginning of time. Until people organize and give the boot to the radical elements, it will only get worse.

2018-11-19 04:37:16 UTC  

Really, it only takes 1-2 rogue employees for Google to do something dangerous.

2018-11-19 04:37:39 UTC  

*but that applies to both sides* A couple rogue employees on the right could nullify Google surprisingly easily, IMO.

2018-11-19 04:39:23 UTC  

California definitely has an effect, as does the large number of PhDs. Current research programs in AI sound like Social Justice ideas in code. Things like: fairness (equity) in search. Societal improvement through social networking. Automated removal of toxic content.

2018-11-19 04:40:09 UTC  

A big factor is that the far left is extraordinarily well organized at all levels of society. And this is something people don't appreciate.

2018-11-19 04:46:50 UTC  

When you're intoxicated by the smell of your own farts, you start to believe you can do no wrong

2018-11-19 04:47:08 UTC  

Thanks for the quick response. I didn't really think that people could be so easily indoctrinated in their adulthood

2018-11-19 04:47:31 UTC  

I always figured that it happened a bit younger, perhaps in their teens or earlier

2018-11-19 04:47:40 UTC  

when the brain is still developing

2018-11-19 05:08:37 UTC  

well keep in mind, these people are older than you. You and your current classmates could be outside the lower end of the most indoctrinated group. Also your college could be abnormal. Alternatively, the schools google hires from could be abnormal.

2018-11-19 05:09:23 UTC  

Also, the main work force may not be the radical ones, the leaders at the top could be, and therefore the slightly majority keep their mouths shut so they keep getting a paycheck

2018-11-19 05:10:53 UTC  

If you notice in a lot of these Social Justice stories, often times someone higher up the food chain is gunning for them and this is ultimately what does them in.

2018-11-19 14:23:31 UTC  

@Mimi You're saying that man, as a part of his identity, has a right to speak and communicate whatever he desires?

2018-11-19 14:23:57 UTC  

so long as it doesn't bring about physical harm to another human being.

2018-11-19 14:24:06 UTC  

What about the identity of man gives him this right?

2018-11-19 14:24:53 UTC  

Everyone has a voice, everyone has their own opinion, and what comes with that is a desire to voice that opinion. While some opinions are seen as others as wrong, who are you, or anyone else, to tell a person what they are to think, to say, to do.

2018-11-19 14:25:39 UTC  

it's a form of behavioral and information control, if you've ever heard of the BITE model, you'll know why this is a negative aspect.

2018-11-19 14:25:42 UTC  

So, having an opinion gives one a right to voice it?

2018-11-19 14:26:10 UTC  

And why shouldn't they?

2018-11-19 14:26:35 UTC  

That doesn't mean they're free from social consequences of having an unpopular opinion, but they shouldn't be LEGALLY consequenced by it.

2018-11-19 14:26:47 UTC  

You're the one putting the idea forward, you're the one who has the obligation to defend it.

2018-11-19 14:27:02 UTC  

Of course.

2018-11-19 14:28:12 UTC  

You do realize that behavioral and information control (Alongside emotional and thought control) are the key factors that make up any form of cult or cult-like group, right? It breeds fanatic and zealots, as well as eventually persecution of innocent human beings, like the artist in this situation.

2018-11-19 14:28:22 UTC  

Nothing good comes out of this form of control, I assure you.

2018-11-19 14:29:31 UTC  

I suppose, if I were to offer a counterpoint, I would try to argue that the expression of ideas can itself become harm, because humans use the expression of society around them as a tool to judge truth and accuracy.

2018-11-19 14:29:51 UTC  

Who would you use as an example? The SJWs?

2018-11-19 14:32:59 UTC  

For instance, a human could begin to believe that human life does not deserve to exist beyond the age of 50. He speaks to other humans of his ideas on a near constant basis. He networks and makes connections with movers and shakers within the society. They work together to embed their teachings within popular culture, and over a period of years, the culture of the nation, constantly bombarded with these messages, begin to be molded by it, and accept it. Change is gradual: social benefits are removed from the elderly, one by one, and euthanasia is decriminalized and becomes more and more accepted over the years. Then it becomes a social pressure to become euthanized, and then it becomes mandatory.