Message from @Paradox
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Which part of the market is the government?
Because that pertains of 2 individuals doing things
So if you think we should limit the amount each person could donate, then you do not believe in the free market
Also lobbying is a private business
I'm curious, though, which part of the market government is. Is it the supply? Is it the demand?
You would be regulating lobbying firms
They are the regulators
When you bribe a politician, what are you bribing them to do?
Regulate
you mean interfere?
The bribe politicians to regulate
Yourself?
So in a completely free market
You eventually see regulations everytime
But the government isn't a part of a "completely free market".
If you do not regulate one of the 3 I mentioned before, you will see corruption everytime
And once you regulate 1 of the 3
Corruption cannot exist, if government doesn't exist. By definition.
You have regulated some part of the economy
Not a free market
Probably on what corruption is as well.
Pretty sure I was right 40 minutes ago. It's a misunderstanding of systems.
Government does exist in a free market
Because once you go full free market
@RyeNorth, you mentioned earlier that in your nation internet radio is taxed in a way that terrestrial is not. But aren't there levies that work the other way around, too? Costs to lease public airwaves? It sounds like you're challenging government's right to tax rather than necessarily addressing regulation. That's another legitimate debate, but when arguments get conflated it gets confusing to know what point is cleanly being made in a debate.
You will eventually see the rich bribing politicians to regulate
That is the guaranteed corruption of a free market
Do you think it's the role of government to tamper with the market?
I do for some things yes
I see. I don't.
I think they should regulate lobbying
And other things, that make the market
No longer a "free market"
Do you think the government and the market are the same thing?
In a completely free market, you can have slavery
Or child labor, or contract killers
No
Paradox (and @RyeNorth), what about public safety? In the 1930's a company decided it would be cost effective to use ethylene glycol as a diluent for cough syrup. Lots of people died from kidney failure due to imbibing antifreeze. It was due to this and similar instances that the government began regulating not only purity but safety of foods, drugs, and cosmetics. Should government be regulating the safety of what we eat?
In a system based around a free market
So, you want the government to have the power to regulate, so it can regulate itself. That doesn't make much sense to me.