Not a free market

So, we seem to not only disagree on what a free market is, but also on what government is.

Probably on what corruption is as well.

Pretty sure I was right 40 minutes ago. It's a misunderstanding of systems.

Government does exist in a free market

Because once you go full free market

@RyeNorth, you mentioned earlier that in your nation internet radio is taxed in a way that terrestrial is not. But aren't there levies that work the other way around, too? Costs to lease public airwaves? It sounds like you're challenging government's right to tax rather than necessarily addressing regulation. That's another legitimate debate, but when arguments get conflated it gets confusing to know what point is cleanly being made in a debate.

You will eventually see the rich bribing politicians to regulate

That is the guaranteed corruption of a free market

Do you think it's the role of government to tamper with the market?

I do for some things yes

I see. I don't.

I think they should regulate lobbying

And other things, that make the market

No longer a "free market"

Do you think the government and the market are the same thing?

In a completely free market, you can have slavery

Or child labor, or contract killers

No

Paradox (and @RyeNorth), what about public safety? In the 1930's a company decided it would be cost effective to use ethylene glycol as a diluent for cough syrup. Lots of people died from kidney failure due to imbibing antifreeze. It was due to this and similar instances that the government began regulating not only purity but safety of foods, drugs, and cosmetics. Should government be regulating the safety of what we eat?

In a system based around a free market

So, you want the government to have the power to regulate, so it can regulate itself. That doesn't make much sense to me.

You regulate the most corrupt things, and evil things

Codes, let me take the stand for a bit...unless @Paradox has given up in exasperation. 😟

Ok

You explained it better anyway

pretty much given up, we disagree on too many fundamentals.

corruption, government, free market, all of that we disagree on

How?

Codes, stop

Might as well be speaking different languages.

@Paradox, I'm not Codes

How do you define free market then?

I am curious

Never mind. He won't yield so there's no point.

I guess we are speaking different languages, lol. The words seem the same, but all the meanings are different.

I would yield, but I defined a free market

And he has given up without even defining free market.... I'm just confused

Your definition is fine.

Instead of talking theoreticals and working towards the granular, I was going to try talking about specific cases and work up from there.

Your understanding of it, isn't, lol