Message from @Redneo
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Trump calls him "Beto the Pedo."
I'd like to reinforce your position, but unfortunately I do favor strict authoritarian government with moral legislation and the repression of freedom, so I think a lot of reasonable people probably feel justified calling me a nazi.
a free speech system needs to be uncensorable enough that you couldnt even remove CP
like blockchains.
You believe a system of free speech needs to allow child pornography?
@Bookworm no, it doesnt need to allow is as there would literaly be no way to stop it
Another problem
You're misusing 'free speech'
@Bookworm if you could stop anything you WILL eventualy stop free speech
So, a system of free speech needs to be unable to stop child pornography.
The ability itself means the system will eventually stop being unrestricted.
Video is more in line with the press, first off.
twitter branded itself as the free speech wing of the free speech party, remember that?
@Bookworm well, CP has been in the bitcoin blockchain for a long ass time now
I'm not sure what that means.
you know there is some text that can be user generated, right? Well, you can encode pictures into ASCII symbols and code that back into a picture.
So, they just hide child pornography in cryptocurrency.
Fiendish.
yeah. And by now we have blockchains for social media. Again files such as pictures would have to be saved in a different manner as you dont typicly want to code something as big as a picture onto the blockchain but itd be entirely possible
Cp gets into some weird territory, I'll gladly debate/discuss in a bit.
First I'll say, no. Defense of CP, WHILE problematic, does not make you a pedo
cause in the US all nudity is somehow seen as pornographic and dads arrested for having a picture of their daughters in the bathtub
Enjoyment does. Making it does.
Sexuality of the content should be a determining factor.
Well making it makes you first and foremost a sexual child abuser and i dont care if you are a pedo or not thats not acceptable
and most sexual child abusers actualy arent pedophile
at least according to the american psychiatric association or my german sources
Could you agree that regulation of CP is a means to inhibit abuse?
That that's the intention, first and foremost?
sure. id argue charging anyone with mere posession is not actualy a means to that (let alone if that includes some teenager that sent a dickpick of himself)
As much as that is clearly pornographic in nature
That's common ground.
Okay. If someone pays for CP or recognises a place or person in such material and doesnt report it now that definatly should be punished.
So, I think it can be quite clear if someone is predatory or not.
@Beemann You have US presidents openly assasinate US citizens, and your own intelligence agency is unconstitutionally watching over you, so yeah, the ground is ripe, all yyou need is one very ambitious president and it's check mate.
Let's say, for instance
A teenager sends a deck pic
@RyeNorth well that interestingly is how its dealt with with 14 or 15 year olds and sex in germany. Yeah a 14 year old can consent to a 50 year old, but till age 16 there are still protections predicated on abuses of their inexperience and such
(now thats irrelevant to porn, thats allways 18)
That's technically pornographic, but it's not predatory