Message from @Dogoegma

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2019-01-01 15:44:18 UTC  

oh that thing leftists have rejected for years now?

2019-01-01 17:02:00 UTC  

yeah, they've replaced it with a true upgrade: feelings and hearsay

2019-01-01 17:59:43 UTC  

Don't forget Taboo and religious dogma.

2019-01-01 18:14:01 UTC  

leftists use religious dogma? I suppose... that'd be the only religious stuff they'd use XD

2019-01-01 18:39:57 UTC  

@GoldenPhoenix they have their own religion

2019-01-01 18:40:14 UTC  

religion of political correctnes

2019-01-01 18:41:38 UTC  

you know how fanatics of religions cant make good jokes or cant take a jokes it is basicaly church of political corectness call the modern “Left”

2019-01-01 18:51:40 UTC  

I can see that. I have a personal aversion to citing religious dogma and such for reasoning, because that's not all that religion is. Religion is important and healthy to society (conceptually, not always in practice), but it should be used together with rigorous logic and science, rather than in place of it during decision making.

2019-01-01 18:56:00 UTC  

you even have religion of science (thats where mad scientists are created)

2019-01-01 18:56:33 UTC  

everything

2019-01-01 18:56:38 UTC  

takem to extremes

2019-01-01 18:56:51 UTC  

is bad

2019-01-01 19:27:29 UTC  

Yes. Moderation is the key. We can discuss all day how much government or economic policy or religion or science we should use, and there's a lot of nuance, but we can at least mostly agree that the all-or-nothing mentality is bad

2019-01-01 19:47:33 UTC  

should "free speech" extend to private forums (private as in created by individuals for express purposes)? discuss

2019-01-01 22:38:18 UTC  

Not by law, but the people who are building those platforms should 100% be applying it to their forums. If you don't keep the principles in habit in your private life you aren't going to be voting for people who do.

2019-01-01 23:41:46 UTC  

Is nudism the ultimate expression of freedom of speech?

2019-01-01 23:42:10 UTC  

That depends

2019-01-01 23:42:26 UTC  

Are you a hot lady? If not then no.

2019-01-02 00:02:35 UTC  

Lmao

2019-01-02 00:04:16 UTC  

Hey, I make no apologies for what I want. A Hot lady naked is useful to me..a fat bald guy naked? Not so much.

2019-01-02 00:07:08 UTC  

Why does it matter about what you see. Wouldn’t it matter more how comfortable you are? Or, is the idea of the government prosecuting people for not wearing what the government wants them too preferable?

2019-01-02 00:13:00 UTC  

i don't think being naked in public is a federal law, idk about most states. but if it was a local law, thats where you get into a bit a conundrum. Can a community enforce its own standards for those those who wish to join it?

2019-01-02 00:13:43 UTC  

You're basically asking if a community can govern.

2019-01-02 00:13:49 UTC  

The answer is, of course.

2019-01-02 00:19:06 UTC  

Naturally, but should they hold this opinion? Is it well informed? Obviously I am not arguing that people shouldn’t be allowed to hold such ideas, I am merely asking if such ideas are based on an accurate rendition of reality

2019-01-02 00:20:24 UTC  

If the opinion that...people should be clothed, is well informed?

2019-01-02 00:21:00 UTC  

I have no idea, because I don't know what their reasoning is. The opinion is accurate, and can be well informed.

2019-01-02 00:21:11 UTC  

This is especially important as companies first censor because nudity=porn in the public consciousness (even though it clearly doesn’t) before they censor political opinion. They do so under the justification that it is just part of what the people want (safety from offense).

2019-01-02 00:22:05 UTC  

Should your local government have the right to enforce a dress code?

2019-01-02 00:22:41 UTC  

Under current legal code, I think that right would be left to the state.

2019-01-02 00:22:52 UTC  

But states are free to delegate to local authority on the matter.

2019-01-02 00:23:25 UTC  

I see no reason why states or local governments do not have the right to enforce dress codes.

2019-01-02 00:23:46 UTC  

Ah, but then expression through dress could be considered speech.

2019-01-02 00:23:54 UTC  

Damnable freedoms.

2019-01-02 00:29:13 UTC  

Lol

2019-01-02 02:26:29 UTC  

well you can also see it in reaction how that comunity that you are in reacted to you so in extreme cases you might as well say that with that decision u ruined yout life 😅

2019-01-02 03:27:56 UTC  

Eh, I don’t care what others feel about me. I think it is dumb for people to be in a state of panic for simple nudity

2019-01-02 03:48:17 UTC  

I think giving the state the power to regulate clothing is a mistake. In Michigan it is hypothetically possible to be put on the sex offenders list for peeing on a tree on the road

2019-01-02 04:20:08 UTC  

What about around minors? I think the state has a vested interest in protecting children.

2019-01-02 04:21:12 UTC  

As a parent I want nudity, at least of the groin area, to be limited to areas restricted to children.

2019-01-02 04:36:29 UTC  

Nudist families are a thing, and there exists many nudist resorts that are family friendly