Message from @Trancezustand

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2019-02-10 02:30:28 UTC  

Plus, we're arguing for the ability to dissent in the future, not just crush all other factions.

2019-02-10 02:30:57 UTC  

Which is why we need a new approach to the organization and fighting

2019-02-10 02:31:18 UTC  

And, I mean, Anti-SJWs are a problem, but the longer they stay completely isolated, the more extreme and difficult they become. And the easier time the SJWs have in punishing everyone else.

2019-02-10 02:32:15 UTC  

SJW is way to loaded of a term, I try not to use it , but I get what you are saying

2019-02-10 02:32:50 UTC  

It's perfect for the sjw to Anti-SJW comparison.

2019-02-10 02:33:25 UTC  

One sees racism/sexism everywhere, the other sees the progressive/feminist adjenda everywhere

2019-02-10 02:33:32 UTC  

But this is besides the point

2019-02-10 02:33:41 UTC  

and using that term only emboldens that grenade

2019-02-10 02:34:12 UTC  

Which there is no way around

2019-02-10 02:34:26 UTC  

This is a red herring, the question is what to do.

2019-02-10 02:34:33 UTC  

^^^^^^^^^^

2019-02-10 02:35:04 UTC  

Well what the communists did was go underground, scapegoat others and install themselves in positions where they could alter public perception/thoughts/opinions

2019-02-10 02:35:16 UTC  

Media, Education, Academia, etc

2019-02-10 02:35:18 UTC  

Indeed. And how to do it without setting a precedent for more government control of private interactions

2019-02-10 02:35:36 UTC  

I think you're chasing way too much purity Grenade.

2019-02-10 02:35:48 UTC  

Plus, you're too skeptical of these things.

2019-02-10 02:36:18 UTC  

Pardon me if I don't like the idea of pushing the government into things when the problem is already centralized power.

2019-02-10 02:36:39 UTC  

Again thats not the suggestion

2019-02-10 02:36:52 UTC  

There is no suggestion

2019-02-10 02:36:59 UTC  

The point is to get the government out of a as many things as possible since it is an institution controlled by the enemy

2019-02-10 02:38:28 UTC  

that's a bit too far in black or white thinking for me to endorse blackhawk

2019-02-10 02:38:54 UTC  

the other option is to continue to ignore the larger strategic picture

2019-02-10 02:39:04 UTC  

Indeed, think of Google and the CA laws on Political discrimination.

2019-02-10 02:39:20 UTC  

to view ww2 not as a series of campaigns and logistics, but of battles and tactical decisions

2019-02-10 02:39:30 UTC  

if you do that I promise you, you will lose

2019-02-10 02:39:38 UTC  

No, Blackhawk. There's a tactical picture that matter and if you can't win on the battlefield the grandest of strategies doesn't matter.

2019-02-10 02:40:01 UTC  

The left pushed the political discrimination laws in CA, doesn't mean they aren't potentially useful to us.

2019-02-10 02:40:24 UTC  

And a law to the effect of "Banks will not close accounts on political affiliation" seems like it would do alot for this recent case too.

2019-02-10 02:41:40 UTC  

My larger argument is that the government is aside the point anyway.

2019-02-10 02:41:52 UTC  

Using problem laws against their proponents is a good wait to win support of the opposition to remove them. The trick is identifying a successful method of using them.

2019-02-10 02:42:01 UTC  

Then read rules for radicals and apply it universally

2019-02-10 02:42:10 UTC  

Well, laws or policies.

2019-02-10 02:42:54 UTC  

Much like the guys suing Universities for having women's only things without allowing a men's only version

2019-02-10 02:43:03 UTC  

There is a risk of backfiring

2019-02-10 02:44:01 UTC  

risk is inherent in life

2019-02-10 02:44:20 UTC  

If you want it gone get yourself arrested and put in solitary confinement

2019-02-10 02:44:20 UTC  

Of the opposition accepting the result which you didn't want in the first place. Like leftists accepting the loss of women's only programs rather than pushing back against the "attack against women"

2019-02-10 02:44:22 UTC  

No, don't read Rules for Radicals, read *this*

```RULES FOR RADICALS is honestly not very useful for Righties, despite the fact that it’s the only Lefty organizing book of which a lot of Righties have even heard. In the Tea Party heyday, people basically xeroxed Alinsky’s chapter on tactics: you know: “pick the target, freeze it, personalize it,” all that stuff. But if you read the rest of the book, you quickly see the problem: Alinsky had the benefit of lefty Institutions, many of which he didn’t even have to build, and he blithely assumes that you’ve got access to Institutional support the way he did. Dude ran an organizer training school with a full-time fifteen-month curriculum. Yeah, no, not gonna help us Righties right now```https://status451.com/2017/10/27/radical-book-club-the-centralized-left/

2019-02-10 02:46:47 UTC  

Read what?

2019-02-10 02:46:52 UTC  

The link

2019-02-10 02:46:59 UTC  

all of it