Message from @pratel
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that's a bit too far in black or white thinking for me to endorse blackhawk
the other option is to continue to ignore the larger strategic picture
Indeed, think of Google and the CA laws on Political discrimination.
to view ww2 not as a series of campaigns and logistics, but of battles and tactical decisions
if you do that I promise you, you will lose
No, Blackhawk. There's a tactical picture that matter and if you can't win on the battlefield the grandest of strategies doesn't matter.
The left pushed the political discrimination laws in CA, doesn't mean they aren't potentially useful to us.
And a law to the effect of "Banks will not close accounts on political affiliation" seems like it would do alot for this recent case too.
My larger argument is that the government is aside the point anyway.
Using problem laws against their proponents is a good wait to win support of the opposition to remove them. The trick is identifying a successful method of using them.
Then read rules for radicals and apply it universally
Well, laws or policies.
Much like the guys suing Universities for having women's only things without allowing a men's only version
There is a risk of backfiring
risk is inherent in life
If you want it gone get yourself arrested and put in solitary confinement
Of the opposition accepting the result which you didn't want in the first place. Like leftists accepting the loss of women's only programs rather than pushing back against the "attack against women"
No, don't read Rules for Radicals, read *this*
```RULES FOR RADICALS is honestly not very useful for Righties, despite the fact that it’s the only Lefty organizing book of which a lot of Righties have even heard. In the Tea Party heyday, people basically xeroxed Alinsky’s chapter on tactics: you know: “pick the target, freeze it, personalize it,” all that stuff. But if you read the rest of the book, you quickly see the problem: Alinsky had the benefit of lefty Institutions, many of which he didn’t even have to build, and he blithely assumes that you’ve got access to Institutional support the way he did. Dude ran an organizer training school with a full-time fifteen-month curriculum. Yeah, no, not gonna help us Righties right now```https://status451.com/2017/10/27/radical-book-club-the-centralized-left/
Read what?
The link
someone who doesnt understand how technology provides a route around the instiutions?
I mean, I'm listening to someone who forgets that technologies are built, run and maintained by people. That if you target people the right way, you can get them *and their technologies* to bend your way,.
Remember when the internet was supposed to be a big, un-censorable and uncontrollable decentralized network that would be unable to be controlled?
Twitter seems to be gaining control. And when you can't do that, you hit the financial services. And the Crypto exchanges (yes, that's already happened).
Bending your way is just a question of minimizing internal resistance
WTF does that even mean?
Get people in the companies and nothing else
Manipulate the ever living shit out of them until they do what you want
Tug at their heart strings, unite them in struggle, force them to contribute to the fight
Who? And what are you basing this on?
I don't get where you're getting this from.
I'm saying we need to band people together. The next time there's a James Damore, heads need to roll.
Or he doesn't get fired.
Only then can you even begin to get neutrality from these institutions.
The next damore is the proud boy who got his chase account shut down
Now whats the solution? Mass withdrawals? Twitter outrage mobs?
This should be the point at which the left loses its collective minds because a black man got his account shut down for political reasons
by what vector should chase be attacked?
And now we come to the end of every time we have this conversation
1. You're missing my point. The reason the Proud Boy got his account pulled is because the culture *within Chase* is sufficiently hostile to allow it. Damore was internal when he got fired and everyone else fell in line out of fear.
2. Any and All of them. Better than sitting around doing nothing. The current trajectory is that the left just set a new precedent: people who look alt-right (but aren't alt-right--and aren't even white) can be banned from the financial system (and don't pretend this isn't going to continue creeping forward from here)
3. Clearly the left isn't holding to it's own standards. So what? Are you going to make them or are they only accountable to themselves (in which they're not accountable to anyone).
> You really need to read that link, it's part of a series, and it's more realistic and actionable than it looks.
It's not enough to have people in position either, they have to be enabled.