Yeah, and that's the crux of the problem.

I've come here years ago and said, "we really need to find a way to organize and push back" and every time it just gets shut down.

"The pendulum will swing back"

Pushing back is difficult for most people because the instiutions are left dominated

or at least they appear that way

Theres also the worry of turning into that which they despise and fear

A collectvist mob which survives on outrage and lashes out against any aggression, real or percieved

As bad as it seems, was this really worse than the Red Scare was for the communists? The 60s came pretty quickly afterwards. And it's not like the Communists just took it laying down.

A year ago I would have said "it's not that bad." Now I'm not so sure.

But I can say if everyone sits on their hands and keeps playing the "we're better than them game" you'll find yourself crushed beneath an authoritarian boot. Quite possibly for the remainder of your natural life.

```A collectvist mob which survives on outrage and lashes out against any aggression, real or percieved```

Atleast, As I got shot, I made sure to fight fair.

yea could you imagine protests like the yellow vests going on in washington DC? I can't. I feel like that is what we need

but we have just enough dollar menu's to justify the shit we have to take lol

No, what we need is something closer to what the Communists did. A way to play defense and enable our people *already in these organizations*

Here is the problem, how do you fight back without becoming indistinguishable from the opposition?

uhh

And most of all, a shift in the culture to be more expressive and more able and willing to fight.

No more of these "go woke go broke" excuses.

The communists created the problems we have today by the tactics they used to survive and they had the benefit of their opponents reaching too far too quickly

So? Perfection is the enemy of good enough.

Once again, how do we fight without becoming them?

How to fight against SJWs without becoming an Anti-SJW, which is the mirror image?

find a cause that everyone on both sides can rally against

What good is being the same as the opposition but in a different color hat?

That doesn't solve anything, it just shifts the problem into a new color range

That's a false equivalence entirely.

For one thing, our side is much more ideologically diverse and much more likely to fragment as it goes too far.

You are trying to fight collectivist which is a near default state of humans.

We are tribal by nature.

Plus, we're arguing for the ability to dissent in the future, not just crush all other factions.

Which is why we need a new approach to the organization and fighting

And, I mean, Anti-SJWs are a problem, but the longer they stay completely isolated, the more extreme and difficult they become. And the easier time the SJWs have in punishing everyone else.

SJW is way to loaded of a term, I try not to use it , but I get what you are saying

It's perfect for the sjw to Anti-SJW comparison.

One sees racism/sexism everywhere, the other sees the progressive/feminist adjenda everywhere

But this is besides the point

and using that term only emboldens that grenade

Which there is no way around

This is a red herring, the question is what to do.

^^^^^^^^^^

Well what the communists did was go underground, scapegoat others and install themselves in positions where they could alter public perception/thoughts/opinions

Media, Education, Academia, etc

Indeed. And how to do it without setting a precedent for more government control of private interactions