Message from @Trancezustand

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2019-02-10 02:13:14 UTC  

And actually violation, unlike the company doing it on its own.

2019-02-10 02:13:57 UTC  

the problem is such proof is nearly impossible to obtain

2019-02-10 02:14:57 UTC  

See, the problem is that you want to find a way to blame the government. You're telling me that the FBI, the people who'd be investigating these things and deciding who's a terrorist has repeatedly denied the Proud Boys are even an "extremist organization" and yet they're the one pulling the accounts? I'd expect to see something much bigger and more sudden in that case.

2019-02-10 02:15:24 UTC  

No, it's that really woke, really promising new Harvard grad who's playing culture warrior at the bank and terrorizing his/her co-workers into silence.

2019-02-10 02:16:34 UTC  

I dont think its the government i think its corporations and their leaders

2019-02-10 02:18:29 UTC  

There was a bill that was approved to go for he floor to shutdown the program, but it's been stuck in limbo awaiting to be voted on since 2017 if I remember

2019-02-10 02:18:51 UTC  

lol what? 2027 lol

2019-02-10 02:18:57 UTC  

he means 2017

2019-02-10 02:19:00 UTC  

Republicans are worse than useless...

2019-02-10 02:19:13 UTC  

individualists trying to fight collectivists

2019-02-10 02:19:26 UTC  

Yeah, and that's the crux of the problem.

2019-02-10 02:19:55 UTC  

I've come here years ago and said, "we really need to find a way to organize and push back" and every time it just gets shut down.

2019-02-10 02:20:00 UTC  

"The pendulum will swing back"

2019-02-10 02:20:53 UTC  

Pushing back is difficult for most people because the instiutions are left dominated

2019-02-10 02:20:59 UTC  

or at least they appear that way

2019-02-10 02:22:23 UTC  

Theres also the worry of turning into that which they despise and fear

2019-02-10 02:22:57 UTC  

A collectvist mob which survives on outrage and lashes out against any aggression, real or percieved

2019-02-10 02:24:46 UTC  

As bad as it seems, was this really worse than the Red Scare was for the communists? The 60s came pretty quickly afterwards. And it's not like the Communists just took it laying down.

A year ago I would have said "it's not that bad." Now I'm not so sure.

But I can say if everyone sits on their hands and keeps playing the "we're better than them game" you'll find yourself crushed beneath an authoritarian boot. Quite possibly for the remainder of your natural life.

2019-02-10 02:25:06 UTC  

```A collectvist mob which survives on outrage and lashes out against any aggression, real or percieved```

Atleast, As I got shot, I made sure to fight fair.

2019-02-10 02:25:18 UTC  

yea could you imagine protests like the yellow vests going on in washington DC? I can't. I feel like that is what we need

2019-02-10 02:25:42 UTC  

but we have just enough dollar menu's to justify the shit we have to take lol

2019-02-10 02:25:47 UTC  

No, what we need is something closer to what the Communists did. A way to play defense and enable our people *already in these organizations*

2019-02-10 02:26:03 UTC  

Here is the problem, how do you fight back without becoming indistinguishable from the opposition?

2019-02-10 02:26:04 UTC  

uhh

2019-02-10 02:26:19 UTC  

And most of all, a shift in the culture to be more expressive and more able and willing to fight.

2019-02-10 02:26:33 UTC  

No more of these "go woke go broke" excuses.

2019-02-10 02:26:41 UTC  

The communists created the problems we have today by the tactics they used to survive and they had the benefit of their opponents reaching too far too quickly

2019-02-10 02:27:24 UTC  

So? Perfection is the enemy of good enough.

2019-02-10 02:28:10 UTC  

Once again, how do we fight without becoming them?

2019-02-10 02:28:41 UTC  

How to fight against SJWs without becoming an Anti-SJW, which is the mirror image?

2019-02-10 02:28:51 UTC  

find a cause that everyone on both sides can rally against

2019-02-10 02:29:12 UTC  

What good is being the same as the opposition but in a different color hat?

2019-02-10 02:29:37 UTC  

That doesn't solve anything, it just shifts the problem into a new color range

2019-02-10 02:29:43 UTC  

That's a false equivalence entirely.

2019-02-10 02:29:58 UTC  

For one thing, our side is much more ideologically diverse and much more likely to fragment as it goes too far.

2019-02-10 02:30:09 UTC  

You are trying to fight collectivist which is a near default state of humans.

2019-02-10 02:30:25 UTC  

We are tribal by nature.

2019-02-10 02:30:28 UTC  

Plus, we're arguing for the ability to dissent in the future, not just crush all other factions.

2019-02-10 02:30:57 UTC  

Which is why we need a new approach to the organization and fighting

2019-02-10 02:31:18 UTC  

And, I mean, Anti-SJWs are a problem, but the longer they stay completely isolated, the more extreme and difficult they become. And the easier time the SJWs have in punishing everyone else.

2019-02-10 02:32:15 UTC  

SJW is way to loaded of a term, I try not to use it , but I get what you are saying