The story of Mastadon and what happened when Japan found refuge on Mastodon for lolicon (it did not go over well).

Can’t wait til free speech allows us to use you guys as our Google fu punching bag

#freespeech

You say that. But a local Uni is looking to make rural students a protected class. Your anti-gun rhetoric is hatespeech, man.

Not sure what you’re talking about but you don’t even link bro

Do you even link bro

Source. Source. Source. [best done in a sea-lion accent]

Nah, I won't bring the wrath of your mobs on them. But things are happening.

What mobs lol?

You keep saying Free Speach, I don't think it means what you think it means

Yeah hit up the EFF then talk to me about free speech

Obvious Troll is Obvious. Did I ever tell you about my idea to make a new server? It fell through from lack of interest. But if you're interested, Khanclansmith...

Anyways, that mastodon story is amusing. The "tolerant left" is surprisingly intolerant when actually faced with another culture. It's doubly amusing when it leads to confusion with their normal opponents.

I think I have have a DM from you... I have been working on other projects lately

I got a shit load of servers running for testing purposes. Why are you special

I would say, do tell. But We got a troll on board. So maybe some other time or something.

I am heading to bed. Good night Pratel.

I think ya neanderthals have a better shot at talking about beating off

Night, Khan.

So what do you beat off to?

My Bitcoin account.

OK guys, how would you rate trump's new taxes

Go to politic free for all. This channel dead cause 30 second timer. Also varies state to state on the tax question.

wow

taxation is slavery

No u

Taxation is rape. #metoo

Taxation is not slavery, but taking from both ends (income and sales) is unfair and evil.

Taxation is obviously not slavery, but are you implying it's still bad? And regardless, what makes it more unfair or more evil simply because of this combination of sales and income taxation methods?

Taxes are an exchange of goods and services for universally flat rates, just included as part of the same deal that comprises citizenship.

government only helps the rich

and makes everyone else poorer through taxation

Can the exercise of political authority be understood as a form of violence?

yes

It's indirect violence; a form of coercion, since political authority can ultimately be backed up by law enforcement, a.k.a. men with guns. Taxes meets this same criteria, but it's not yet effectively enforced, as there are large numbers of people (44% of Americans) who don't pay taxes.

Source: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/81-million-americans-wont-pay-any-federal-income-taxes-this-year-heres-why-2018-04-16

They don't all get away with it, but that's a large number of people to have to track down and hold accountable, and the IRS tends to prioritize the people who try to keep more money for themselves, meaning the average person who ignores tax law won't see a gun forcing them to pay anytime soon.

Is it unethical? Yes, but the American constitution lists "promote the general welfare" as one of its purposes, and a welfare state is likely going to be ineffectual if its funding is entirely voluntary. Maybe it would have been better for the government to remain handicapped in its ability to obtain taxation, that way freedom would have been maximized, but I think the choice to make and enforce revenue laws was done more for practical reasons than anything sinister.

Personally, I would rather be taxed under the current rates and have a large military protecting American liberty than avoid taxation and rely on PMCs to protect my "right" to liberty as a citizen.

You think it's unethical to exercise political authority?

Hm... my impulse is to say yes, but only technically. I see the practicality of exercising political authority, but I think authority is most ethical when it's backed up by reason and not supported by force. I think there are a lot of good reasons for people to do what authority urges them to do, but currently the worldwide standard is to have a gun backing up the governance rather than a sophisticated compendium of good reasons and logical arguments.

I realize it's a bit utopian, which I why I have no problem complying with the current standard, but I would ultimately like to see humanity harness the power of the spoken word to hold people accountable rather than have people be physically arrested and imprisoned.

So, even the act of voting then becomes immoral? Voting is an exercise of political authority, after all.

Currrently, I would say it is, but only **because** the political authority exercised after the vote is backed up by force, but I have some degree of flexibility and nuance when it comes to these things. Just because I would prefer the political authority to be backed up by reason doesn't mean I prefer a system without any vote at all.

On a small scale, I would prefer me and my friends voting on a place to eat without the threat of violence to enforce the results of the vote to a situation where one of us has a gun and tells all of us "Okay, we decided to eat at KFC, and if anyone tries to do otherwise I'm locking you in the basement." But then I might prefer that absurd scenario to a scenario in which the friend with the gun picks the place and none of us get a say in the matter.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294870219682217984/546816290170601472/michigan.png

I guess access to clean water isn't established as a "right" per se, but the preamble to the constitution has that whole "promote the general welfare" clause, so at the very least there's a failing of government to fulfill one of its purposes. Not sure where the blame is specifically, but between the state and the fed there should be a relief effort to solve this problem. Very calloused words on the part of the state government if that's really their attitude toward the problem.

Not sure if it's relevant to pin this on AnCaps though, since the government responsible for this position is not Anarchist, nor is there any evidence to suggest that this situation is the result of Capitalism itself.

Yeah, that would probably open up too big a can of worms.