Message from @SinSanguine
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Getting Scurvy to own Drumpf
Oi, I have a topic.
Modern societal understanding of love has evolved into tolerance and acceptance. Whereas historically society has used the term as a measure of respect.
Term Respect does not equate to love(romantic context) but love does equate to respect. It is true that most people use love for replacement acceptance and love(friendly context). How ever I feel this is a misuse of language and it should be avoided.
Trump is the orange to this country's scurvy
Love is the desire for what is best for an individual. A parent disciplines their child out of love, even if the parent does not respect the child or tolerate their actions.
Ehhh, love is just bonding. People do what they think is best for those they bond with because bonding ties their psychological well-being to the well-being of those they bond with. Bonding can be accompanied by respect, but ultimately that's a matter of the individuals morals and how they believe they should act around those they love.
the greeks belived there are different types of love and had different names for them
the most common one people associate with love now days is eros, which is romantic love
Then theres philos, agape... maybe some more idk.
That was before a scientific understanding of oxytocin though. If I had to compare their concept, I'd say the Greeks were talking about moral reactions to the bonding hormone.
Do you think it is possible that Donald Trump could have his national emergency determined unconstitutional? general question
I'm not sure... that's a tough one. I don't know what limitations the constitution has on emergency powers. As far as I know, there's not a hard limit.
Yeah, it's one of those perfectly undefined grey areas, seemingly
It's very difficult to judge in a totally unbiased manner since this is such a unique situation and there's no legal precedent.
I have my doubts the supreme court will consider his national emergency unconstitutional. There's too much info to back him up. Even if it's not a major emergency, one could easily consider the amount of illegal immigration and the harm it's doing an emergency, and then there's not a constitutional statute being broken by him having a slightly skewed opinion of the situation. He's still acting to prevent harm to the nation, which is within his duties as president. It'll likely get a 5 to 4 vote in his favor.
it is possible it could just scrape by...
main thing im concerned about is what it could mean for him if it does get blocked and he loses the wall
beyond not getting the wall, which is already an awful thing, it would certainly hurt his chances in 2020
I don't want President Harris
Heheh, I wouldn't be too worried. If the supreme court strikes this down, the information can be easily be spun to keep supporters. He might even insist that media manipulation influenced the supreme court decision, or something like that, then further encourage people in the election that voting for him is the only way to make sure the wall gets built.
Of course, life will go on regardless. Whatever will happen will happen.
I guess so.
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the bill he just passed actual counters his own national emergency
Source?
id have to look up what the spending bill means for border security, but it defeats the national emergency since it open ups the border and makes it harder to set the wall.
essentially, its an admission that its not an emergency.
Hmm...
Its gonna be used againts him in court. It might not kill the national emergency but itll still obstruct it even if the national emergency passes
imagine debate is a game
what would be the rules both sides should agree on
and how are you winning?
Old duelling rules
The one that survives is the winner
Debate is not a game.
One could build a game around a debate, but debate is just exchange of words in particular format
The game around it is usually to have predetermined group of people cast votes, and whoever gets more votes wins.
This game is usually dumb and pointless, since most people don't change opinion trough debate; And winner is determined by pre-existing opinions of voting group.
Am I the only one who thinks Shamima Begum (ISIS bride who wants to come back to the UK) should be given another chance now that she's an adult (she left at 15), and should be let back in? I think she should do time in prison here, for sure, and have to accept being tagged and monitored. She could even be a useful source of info to intelligence services, given time, but this seems to be a massively unpopular opinion outside of the far-left
Part of me wants to forgive and believe she's genuine, but I'm pretty sure joining a known terrorist organization acting against your own nation is treason...
@IsKillingClonesIllegal? it is natural to want to protect others. However sometimes the greatest protection you can give is tough love. If she gets allowed in, it continues to perpetuate the immensely dangerous standard that removes responsibility from people's actions and thus things will get worse and more people will be hurt in far greater ways.
@Joe_Limon I'm not saying we welcome her back, no harm no foul, I'm saying I think she should be allowed to come back, with *severe* conditions imposed, i.e. a spell in prison, restricted movement and association when she's out. She may well have useful information if nothing else.
To what gain? She will be freer if she stays abroad.
One cannot join a rouge and murderous terrorist state, however temporary, that has pledged to wreak havoc upon your state of birth and expect to be let back in once that state has failed.
It sets a dangerous precedent.