Message from @GingaBomber

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2018-01-06 19:04:03 UTC  

Ah thanks anyway.

2018-01-06 19:04:15 UTC  

Do DM it to me, in case of all the comments flood it out

2018-01-06 19:04:17 UTC  

If you okay

2018-01-06 19:04:23 UTC  

Okay.

2018-01-06 19:04:41 UTC  

Should clarify that I aint american, but I found the politics there fascinating

2018-01-06 19:05:02 UTC  

I'm a gay guy, and I voted for Trump because of numerous reasons, but what made me interested in politics in general was first #Gamergate, and second was in political conversations, people would speak on my behalf/imply that I was "obviously" a democrat because I was gay

2018-01-06 19:05:08 UTC  

Really pissed me off

2018-01-06 19:05:10 UTC  

I'm of the opinion that, with the exception of tyrannical parties, the outcome of elections is mostly irrelevant, increasingly so as time goes on. What really matters is the ideas and morals of the society. This is what really shapes the fate of a country.

2018-01-06 19:05:14 UTC  

And well... Kinda rooted for them the whole way, cause if it aint the US being No1 in military, it will be either Russia or China

2018-01-06 19:05:29 UTC  

And I dont trust either. So well, lesser evils and all that

2018-01-06 19:05:50 UTC  

Well, it always boils down to the people really.

2018-01-06 19:06:03 UTC  

Culture?

2018-01-06 19:06:37 UTC  

culture comes from principles

2018-01-06 19:06:42 UTC  

Fascinating actually, GG isnt something I see discussed outside KIA in a possitive light

2018-01-06 19:06:59 UTC  

I mean, i kinda got jaded with the media after that

2018-01-06 19:07:14 UTC  

@WOODY I disagree, policies are vastly more important, it is the morality of wanting to help others that has led us directly into this finacial crisis which our generation will be paying off for our entire lives, as well as our children's lives.

2018-01-06 19:07:15 UTC  

Found Pool after that. Well, went after alternative news

2018-01-06 19:07:43 UTC  

I mean, man... The journey.

2018-01-06 19:07:53 UTC  

@GingaBomber You find American politics interesting? I prefer satire based on American politics:

The Ephebians believed that every man should have the vote. Every five years someone was elected to be Tyrant, provided he could prove that he was honest, intelligent, sensible, and trustworthy. Immediately after he was elected, of course, it was obvious to everyone that he was a criminal madman and totally out of touch with the view of the ordinary philosopher in the streets looking for a towel. And then five years later they elected another one just like him, and really it was amazing how intelligent people kept on making the same mistakes.

- Terry Pratchett, *Small Gods*

2018-01-06 19:08:10 UTC  

I think American politics is so dynamic because of sort of the frontier history; it's a young country that has had to give the middle finger and fight a lot. It had to go from 3rd world to first world in 200 years. In the late 1800s half of the country was still living in a way that is comparible now to a lot of developing countries, while the other half was 1st world and both ends were trying to create enough infelstructure to have everything even across the board.

2018-01-06 19:08:24 UTC  

Oh god, I need more clips, cause that ones so true

2018-01-06 19:08:37 UTC  

Well, does not help that the people we want in politics dont want to be in it

2018-01-06 19:09:00 UTC  

You get the power hungry and the greedy, since they are the ones with the initiative to run for it

2018-01-06 19:09:09 UTC  

@Deleted User are you suggesting that the only moral choices are to help others? I recently read Atlas Shrugged, and the objectivists would argue that altruism is actually immoral.

2018-01-06 19:09:25 UTC  

And well, people dont like to be forced into a duty they did not wish for

2018-01-06 19:10:03 UTC  

@WOODY I would say that helping others in of itself is a virtuous thing to do that lines up with Western Values, but Democrats and the left has taken it to an extreme, slowly and progressively in the last 50 years

2018-01-06 19:10:41 UTC  

What if say it was a difference in empathy then?

2018-01-06 19:10:54 UTC  

Or to whom the altruism was directed against?

2018-01-06 19:11:21 UTC  

Like the Repubs being American citizens, especially the vets and the homeless, while to the Dems, minorities

2018-01-06 19:11:36 UTC  

@Deleted User I would agree that it aligns with Western values, but disagree that it is virtuous to sacrifice your own values and happiness for others. The democrats are merely taking this principle towards it's logical conclusion. Just as the Socialists in Russia did.

2018-01-06 19:12:00 UTC  

Oh god, @Timcast We need a discussion channel

2018-01-06 19:12:06 UTC  

please

2018-01-06 19:12:13 UTC  

@Deleted User @WOODY Helping others is something that's heavily emphasized by Christian values, upon which most of Western civilization is built, but the main focus of Christianity's "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" is the poor and disabled that are right in front of you, as opposed to the Democrats' "Oh no, these people halfway around the world are so disadvantaged! We must help them!"

2018-01-06 19:12:15 UTC  

Unless this is the room

2018-01-06 19:12:23 UTC  

perhaps swapping over to <#398973785426100234>

2018-01-06 19:12:26 UTC  

for now

2018-01-06 19:12:29 UTC  

Then dunno if its right to call it te Newsroom

2018-01-06 19:12:42 UTC  

@Timcast At this point I'd almost recommend creating a new <#398858182455459853> and renaming this channel

2018-01-06 19:12:44 UTC  

Cause this will be the first shit people see when they join

2018-01-06 19:12:49 UTC  

2018-01-06 19:12:57 UTC  

Oh god