No matter how good your power grid is there will always be dead spots with nothing but solar/wind power

alternative power is getting cheaper as tech progresses

Not to mention solar panels rarely (if ever) actually pay for themselves on a consumer scale

Everyone go geothermal

Wut

Lmao

*hydro power?*

I remember that discussion about electric cars......

Like I said, where does the power come from? Coal mines.

@Revan got a source on that? People that have been using solar for 5+ years say theyve payed themselves off

You get less efficient vehicles which still get their power from "unclean" sources

Let's tape into those natural corrosive, high pressure, toxic vents! This is safe.

@ping No, I don't have a source, but the people whose panels have payed for themselves most likely live in very sunny areas that rarely have clouds

@GingaBomber Not to mention mining the materials for the batteries

And that

Like fuck man, apple gets their metals from third world countries

Electric cars are slightly better even with that factored in but the subsities make it not worthwhile.

So does every other major place building things tbh

@GingaBomber large power plants are several times more efficient than car engines

How about transferring and storing all that power

"It's fine bruh, just build like a giant battery bank or something." <:hmkGrin:284219474440355840>

Need better batteries.

Combine that with regenerative breaking and the fact that 20% of the US power grid is from hydro power plants

I mean, at the car charging stations, the prices fluctuate like crazy, where at night, its pretty much free, to the afternoon where its realyl fucking expensive

Actually, I think the best argument for nuclear power is that The Simpsons, which has a track record of foreshadowing (if not outright predicting) future events, features Homer Simpson working at a nuclear power plant

Dont get me wrong though, combustion power is definately not very efficient

especially with how much of it going to heat energy

firey explosion energy

@GingaBomber Yeah, the least efficient part of a car's engine is the combustion reaction

But electric cars still have to solve alot of issues

@GingaBomber most people charge their cars at night though

I don't see any problems with electric vehicles

And I can argue that i can refuel any time of the day

o7

I put my faith in the thought that by trying to build a self sustaining colony on Mars will result in us not needing to worry about global warming aside from trying to maintain things that are astecticly pleasing

How long till the environmentalists complain

I think we need more advances in AI/Robotics before we can actually commit the resources to any moon/planet colonizing.

Exosuits, for example.

And what has musk been doing?

His best.

But we need more people can just Musk.