Message from @OliveBlanc
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that or equality of outcome for all genders
being trans isnt a mental illness, taking gender seriously over actually becoming successful is
we only really see the (usually extreme) trans activists in the media
Gender dysphoria isn't a mental illness?
Thinking you’re in the wrong body and wanting to lop off your genitals seems pretty mental illness-y to me.
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not all trans people experience gender dysphoria
and even then, actually taking it seriously is the problem
like otherkins
If you mean that some people only claim to be trans because it's gives you social 'credit' with the left, then I would agree, probably.
obviously people are going to gain the system and do everything they can do gain social power
Yeah.
but it's fairly easy to tell if they are being dishonest or willfully ignorant, which IMO most of the trans progressive activists are
Such as when they deny that *biological* sex is even a thing, like that one college professor (I think he was?) up in Canada, when he was debating Jordan Peterson.
particularly not citing anything credible when it comes to the association between gender expression and biological gender
the most credible papers i've seen cited (if at all, most of the time it's just a shitty blog post) have little to 0 citations and/or aren't even in the psychology and sociology field
social constructivists are ignorant of the most basic psychological observation that a lot of our behaviors are not formed socially, you can see this in animals that can walk right after being born, insects in general, the gag reflex, sneezing, shaking in the cold, all of our facial expressions being consistently tied to emotions across all cultures
humans aren't special
we would die if our brains were just a bundle of neurons with no biologically driven behaviors
I've never seen anyone claiming biological sex is not a real thing
flat earth level shit
so basically the argument relies on the assumption that someone that claims biological sex is real assumes they mean humans can only be male or female
and because genetic defects that break the usual male/female classification exist (i don't think anyone denies this) that means the entire classification itself is flawed
the article injects gender expression into that by 1. attacking the science that these people follow in an extremely condescending manner. 2. implying people that think genetics is a factor in society racist/sexist (by showing someone that believes africans are less intelligent by genetics)
3. emphasizing the complexity of biology and making the assumptions of the other side seem naive because they don't have the bigger picture (while not actually showing the bigger picture and relevant research)
now here's what i think
the classification of male/female is extremely useful regardless of the presence of edge cases
there is an extremely high correlation between all of the factors involved, most obvious being that men produce more testosterone regardless of the culture which has many observable effects that we can actually measure by injecting people with testosterone, have penises, don't have boobs, have narrower hips, etc
this might seem obvious to you all but not to the people that wrote that article
sigh
the only ones I give creedence to are the trans folks who have undergone hormone treatment and had surgery, and the hermaphodites
I guess they really want the definition of gender to change
technically speaking, science recognizes 5 different sexes, in terms of sexual dimorphic species. That said, not all sexually dimorphic species have all 5 normally, and all 5 are some combination of male or female.
6 if you count a genetic condition where the person never really develops their sexual organs.
geez just saw tims latest video. i have been saying for years gender doesn't exist and no one listens to me.