I think that’s more of a depression thing.

it's literally rp

taking it serious is a mental illness

😮

playing devil's advocate, wouldn't it be applied because for sure at least 49% of the population has an 'issue' with lower wages

vs the folks who are probably represented in < 1% of the population

IRL I don't know why it isn't being treated as a mental illness

I guess maybe sometimes the psychological ball rolls into corners where things get normalized

progressives won't make that argument because they would seem disrespectful of the struggles of being trans

Yeah I'm not a fuckin' progressive

but I would justify it that way were I in their shoes

that or equality of outcome for all genders

being trans isnt a mental illness, taking gender seriously over actually becoming successful is

we only really see the (usually extreme) trans activists in the media

Gender dysphoria isn't a mental illness?

Thinking you’re in the wrong body and wanting to lop off your genitals seems pretty mental illness-y to me.

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not all trans people experience gender dysphoria

and even then, actually taking it seriously is the problem

like otherkins

If you mean that some people only claim to be trans because it's gives you social 'credit' with the left, then I would agree, probably.

obviously people are going to gain the system and do everything they can do gain social power

Yeah.

but it's fairly easy to tell if they are being dishonest or willfully ignorant, which IMO most of the trans progressive activists are

Such as when they deny that *biological* sex is even a thing, like that one college professor (I think he was?) up in Canada, when he was debating Jordan Peterson.

particularly not citing anything credible when it comes to the association between gender expression and biological gender

the most credible papers i've seen cited (if at all, most of the time it's just a shitty blog post) have little to 0 citations and/or aren't even in the psychology and sociology field

social constructivists are ignorant of the most basic psychological observation that a lot of our behaviors are not formed socially, you can see this in animals that can walk right after being born, insects in general, the gag reflex, sneezing, shaking in the cold, all of our facial expressions being consistently tied to emotions across all cultures

humans aren't special

we would die if our brains were just a bundle of neurons with no biologically driven behaviors

I've never seen anyone claiming biological sex is not a real thing

lol

flat earth level shit

@OliveBlanc https://www.dailydot.com/via/sex-is-not-biological-reality/

so basically the argument relies on the assumption that someone that claims biological sex is real assumes they mean humans can only be male or female

and because genetic defects that break the usual male/female classification exist (i don't think anyone denies this) that means the entire classification itself is flawed

the article injects gender expression into that by 1. attacking the science that these people follow in an extremely condescending manner. 2. implying people that think genetics is a factor in society racist/sexist (by showing someone that believes africans are less intelligent by genetics)
3. emphasizing the complexity of biology and making the assumptions of the other side seem naive because they don't have the bigger picture (while not actually showing the bigger picture and relevant research)

now here's what i think

the classification of male/female is extremely useful regardless of the presence of edge cases

there is an extremely high correlation between all of the factors involved, most obvious being that men produce more testosterone regardless of the culture which has many observable effects that we can actually measure by injecting people with testosterone, have penises, don't have boobs, have narrower hips, etc

this might seem obvious to you all but not to the people that wrote that article