its got nothing to do with race or ethnicity

They're perpetuating their culture anyway, though, even in the face of being in a country with individual rights.

Yeah, I'm not sure what's even being argued here. Does the government go out and personally tell one person at a time what rights they have? If they all have the same rights, that's collective rights

I still don't understand

we are telling them that their culture is equally important and not telling them why our culture is important

that is why they don't respect it

We're not allowed to, though, because "all cultures are beautiful."

True , but even if we did lots would not suddenly respect us , we’ve been flooded with the trash and garbage of other cultures

they would if we show them that our success is due to individual rights

wew

the problem is that our moral justification for rights was traditionally religious

What success , the west has been declining since the 50s

Same time individualism became such a big thing

how are you measuring that

thats because we abandoned the conception of rights 100 years ago

Declining morally , politically , culturally

This debate has suddenly shifted right above my head.

I think I'm gonna get back to my games

America is the result of the enlightenment, the decline of America is the decline of the Enlightenment.

its about philosophy.

phillosophy and ethics

we have lost them

Yes.

^^^

to the subjectivists

Indeed

what the west needs is a moral justification for individual rights and a moral condemnation of group rights.

a secular one

thats because we're not educating people how to think for themselves, only how to behave

and at that point you can just tell them to behave liek you want

you're right

thats because our intellectual leaders have embraced subjectivism/romanticism

(what we need is Ayn Rand)

nah, intellectual leaders are using it as a tool

people that think for themselves are bad for leaders because you can't control them, a horde of drones is all you need

cuz you can use the horde of blind fools to keep the intellectuals in line for your own goals

What America needs is no Hispanic immigration any more , they vote for the left and keep flooding into Texas and pretty soon Texas will be democrat because of the immigration and when that happens America is finished

the intellectual leaders dictate the structure of education and of philosophy for the wider world and political landscape

Jayred that’s one of the reasons white nations are being flooded with non whites , because they are on average less intelligent and therefore easier for a superstate to control

exactly

look: the Democrats and the Republicans aren't that different. The problem is not with immigration. Unfettered problematic immigration is a symptom of the wider amorality of the society.

IK republicans aren’t much better but they’re a bit better for your rights in America

150/100 years ago, people were flooding into America illegally: to work.