Message from @GingaBomber
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yes
I mean like Antifa becoming fascists even though their name implies opposing them
but thats like saying freedom of speech in Europe
its only free if you say what the people in charge agrees with
More like “the right to not be offended”.
Yeah.
I mean, one thing I noticed was how European laws seem to be written with the naive idea that people will not exploit laws with vague or subjective descriptions.
something people forget is that somehow these people who have the right to not be offended, can still offend others
Making use of hate speech laws to make something illegal to criticise
well the naivety comes from this illusion that the west is the epicenter of "the good guys"
and since the governments in europe are "the good guys" they'll be good and wise enough to supposedly "not" exploit these vague definitions of laws
and since they're the good guys that care for everyone good, the only people that can disagree (or criticise) are bad people, since good people would love that they care for everyone, hence only people who criticise are bad, hence should be punished cuz they're bad
I mean, Id like to know how long these laws were in place.
And which countries dont have these laws.
about the same time ago as when it became appearant to a bigger and growing group of people that the great establishment no longer has the naitive peoples interests in mind
In the US, I dont see anyone getting arrested for sperging out an opinion.
Poland doesn't have that yet
at least as far as i know
Hmm, I wonder
The US... Would you say it has the closest to the truest definition of FoS?
Probably
Thing is, whatmakes having it true is kinda subjective
well theres a youtube clip of Poland police charging and beating up an antifa group, and they reject those syrian refugees, so they're atleast not part of this clique of governments with anti-criticism laws
How about private institutions like say, social media
Then it’s not so free.
That’s market freedom but without enough anti-trust laws.
Well, it's funny that the common defense is "well, social media companies are private corporations, so they can kick off whoever they want", yet when it comes to baking a cake, suddenly that's discrimination and wrong.
Rules for thee and not for me.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Pun intended.
only when a christian baker does it
Muslim bakers get no issue from the media
Well, it was just virtue signalling
Oh yeah, that'd be racist and harassment.
something people can protest against with no cost to one self
exactly
Im sure theres a better way to go about looking into the social aspects of it.
Hell, even Milo found the whole thing silly and went into the background of the whole thing. He really does not like the Gay community.
no one does
I think everyone should have to follow FoS laws not just the government. It would be very beneficial to the country.
I mean, the only reason the Christian Bakery lost that court case is because they Doxxed the gay couple.
They did?