and well, these days it doesn't matter who you are, what you say or think

Its the public opinion of you that defines you in the eyes of the people

Very few people are 100% good or 100% evil. Even the best people have terrible ideas, even the worst people have some good ones.

well the thing is, we're all human, any person is capable of great heroics and great horrors

and as such it is our actions that should define us, not what we claim to want to be

Guess the left takes going to a party with some people as actions that define manning. Which I find funny but am not surprised by.

well in their eyes, thats fraternising with the enemy

Ffs stop referring to left wing media and far left activists as "the left"

what should they be refered to as?

Anti liberal clowns

Regressive left.

It's just for convenience.

Fair enough

Yeah pretty much.

We all know who’s being referred to.

Even if they're not what the left is suppose to be, they are the current face of it in it's current form, unfortunately.

I think using the term 'liberal' is even more of a misnomer.

I mean, the Antifa crowd ain’t liberal

Definitely not. lol

With their whole “liberals get the bullet too” slogan

depends by what political template you go by,

If you go by purely left-right, then its acceptable

if you go by left-right with a Y-axis of Authoritarian/Liberal

then saying "the left" is wrong because its the "authoritarian" branch that imposes this, not the liberal left (and right-wing respectively)

its just corrupted definitions

like how "Liberal" is now just the term for Authoritarian Leftist

Newspeak

whilst the word Liberal means freedom

Leftist?

Too many leftists consider themselves liberal.

yes

I mean like Antifa becoming fascists even though their name implies opposing them

but thats like saying freedom of speech in Europe

its only free if you say what the people in charge agrees with

More like “the right to not be offended”.

Yeah.

I mean, one thing I noticed was how European laws seem to be written with the naive idea that people will not exploit laws with vague or subjective descriptions.

something people forget is that somehow these people who have the right to not be offended, can still offend others

Making use of hate speech laws to make something illegal to criticise

well the naivety comes from this illusion that the west is the epicenter of "the good guys"

and since the governments in europe are "the good guys" they'll be good and wise enough to supposedly "not" exploit these vague definitions of laws

and since they're the good guys that care for everyone good, the only people that can disagree (or criticise) are bad people, since good people would love that they care for everyone, hence only people who criticise are bad, hence should be punished cuz they're bad

I mean, Id like to know how long these laws were in place.

And which countries dont have these laws.

about the same time ago as when it became appearant to a bigger and growing group of people that the great establishment no longer has the naitive peoples interests in mind

In the US, I dont see anyone getting arrested for sperging out an opinion.

Poland doesn't have that yet