Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-01-29 00:00:26 UTC  

@ping, sorry .33333 repeating x 3.. as in 1/3 *3 and all that,nevermind

2018-01-29 00:00:32 UTC  

leerooooy

2018-01-29 00:01:13 UTC  

i'm more about the actual application in society than proving things concretely

2018-01-29 00:01:31 UTC  

and that figure out why 40% are unaffected is irrelevant, in modern medicine these sorts of random % of X happening is so common they even place it on the medicine "May cause unintended side effects"

2018-01-29 00:01:54 UTC  

chemistry / physics need to be absolutely perfect and concrete in order to help, which is why it's so strict

2018-01-29 00:02:12 UTC  

yes but thats what makes them sciences

2018-01-29 00:02:34 UTC  

getting a correlation wrong by 10% in sociology is usually not that big of a deal

2018-01-29 00:02:46 UTC  

yes, because its not following the scientific method

2018-01-29 00:02:50 UTC  

its following statistics

2018-01-29 00:03:01 UTC  

i mean you are using the scientific method to collect good data

2018-01-29 00:03:23 UTC  

you're using experiments to collect the data

2018-01-29 00:03:38 UTC  

experiments being methods of collecting your data

2018-01-29 00:03:42 UTC  

yep, good data and good experimentation lays credit to the correllation, no one will want to say its 100% truth, but can be confident nonetheless, thats good science

2018-01-29 00:04:05 UTC  

as in selection strategies and in the case of something fuzzy, a classification algorithm

2018-01-29 00:04:57 UTC  

@pukeblood i think we should define "good science" as something that has an actual use in society that offsets it's cost

2018-01-29 00:05:22 UTC  

well its hard to say if something is good if its, say, new

2018-01-29 00:05:40 UTC  

supporting hypothesis are needed to make a theorem in any science

2018-01-29 00:05:45 UTC  

nah, he means a reliable conclusion when he says "good science" he doesn't mean how much it matters to society

2018-01-29 00:05:54 UTC  

like traffic studies that reduce road deaths by 1% is still going to be good

2018-01-29 00:06:11 UTC  

oh yeah nah I dont mean societal benefits

2018-01-29 00:07:00 UTC  

but instead that its drawn from reliable experiments and data to draw an accurate conclusion

2018-01-29 00:07:00 UTC  

implementation of good science will probably, *usually*, result in good benefits

2018-01-29 00:07:23 UTC  

yeah but like

2018-01-29 00:07:55 UTC  

i can prove my brainfuck theories for decades and decades and waste countless hours of other people's time

2018-01-29 00:08:09 UTC  

so can anime

2018-01-29 00:08:12 UTC  

thats not a problem

2018-01-29 00:08:12 UTC  

if its scientifically proven, its still good

2018-01-29 00:08:49 UTC  

the issue is also my hypothesis can be so loose that it would always be a hit

2018-01-29 00:08:59 UTC  

then its a bad hypothesis 😛

2018-01-29 00:09:06 UTC  

youd get called on your shit immediately

2018-01-29 00:09:11 UTC  

like if someone makes a study they can make it "good science" by just making the hypothesis too loose

2018-01-29 00:09:14 UTC  

I mean, a loose hypothesis gives you loose results

2018-01-29 00:09:18 UTC  

loose hypotheses are thought up by many a "woke" person

2018-01-29 00:09:25 UTC  

lul

2018-01-29 00:10:30 UTC  

like when you do shrooms and look at space and go "bruh what if like, hold on"

2018-01-29 00:10:40 UTC  

"what if the stars are watching"

2018-01-29 00:10:53 UTC  

*hits blunt* is it called Sand because its between Sea and Land?

2018-01-29 00:11:01 UTC  

reminds me of another thing to bitch about

2018-01-29 00:11:19 UTC  

creationists saying we cant prove evolution is real because we don't have a time machine

2018-01-29 00:11:53 UTC  

but what about the Ohare airport ufo of 2007

2018-01-29 00:12:05 UTC  

gotta be timetravellers and/or underground aliens