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The very fact that we have black people who openly support Trump, and are called 'race traitors' for it
Wrong. If races have different capacities to succeed in a 21st century, service-based, highly industrialised economy they will naturally gravitate to the most effective means for their prosperity as a group.
In the case of blacks, it's primarily welfare.
What if/when we reach the point where individualism becomes an ideal, and may simply not be feasable for awhile, if we haven't already gotten there? I mean, I don't like identitarian politics, but if we're gonna have them, may as well have them for everyone. Whether or not the ideal is individualism, what if there are simply too many collectives at play?
You're correct that they gravitate towards welfare.
I think it's just to be expected that they work for their group interests. Think about it what animal that only work's for it's self would survive?
Blacks vote Democratic because that's who the Dems pander to. Same reason Repubs have been white. I find this says more about the parties than the people voting. And why I hate identity politics.
And Welfare has destroyed the nuclear family
leading to further poverty, crime, and violence.
Dems ruined it in a way.
^ ^ ^
You can play 'ideology over race' all you want. The only consequence will be an increasingly moderate GOP, a bankrupt public finance system and all of your rights extinguished.
I will not argue that the welfare state being a huge contributor. This much is obvious.
I don't care about a moderate GOP. I care more about all of the leftists jumping ship.
Because more and more actually see what's going on
Also, what are you proposing with these stats? I mean, alot of blacks live in poorer areas, the welfare ghettos or as I like to call it, vote plantations.
Id say, let the repubs in to fix it.
Why don't you look up the stats yourself? Look up how rich black people vote.
*They* have to let the Republicans in, that's the problem.
I don't understand how people can claim to be standing up for rights by sitting on a platform of stripping people's rights.
I already demonstrated also that even in spite of income and wealth increase, middle class blacks still commit more crime than poor whites
I don't need to. I know.
Rich black people have more to lose, and more to fear from a red state.
@Grenade123 Again you're strawmanning. I'm simply arguing about the relevance of race from a statistical standpoint.
The mere existance of the alt-right is the boogeyman the Left need to wrest power for now.
Well I can say I am glad I didnt take sociology
You can lie with statistics and statistics lie.
I've debated both sides
I know the (emotion based) arguments the left use.
I mean... Its usually the leftists that are anoyying and preachy so.
I am not seeing it here.
@Grenade123 So you now choose you ignore the statistics in favour of your personal biases. This is Pew data, not a conservative organisation.
It's all census and Pew.
What I am asking is what is Lex proposing with this
Cause you cant debate facts.
Any data can still be cherrypicked.
I mean I had issue with Aussie posting random stuff but not proposing his view or perspective on it.
The point is that you'll lose all your rights and there's nothing you can do about it. You'll ride the myth of the based black man until you've lost everything you once enjoyed.
And more with leftists I see in almost every channel Ive been ot
I can show you how many black kids get shot by cops
America is over and demographics are the culprit.