Message from @Miss Direction

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2018-02-16 22:41:22 UTC  

They could.

2018-02-16 22:41:59 UTC  

somi, what is wrong about it?

2018-02-16 22:42:00 UTC  

Issue is the typical german police officer has been in training for about three years before finally becoming an officer? Whereas in the US the typical training time is about six months.

2018-02-16 22:42:21 UTC  

There's a fuckton more people that own guns in Germany than just those groups.

2018-02-16 22:42:49 UTC  

It's simply not correct that there's no such thing as recreational gun ownership in Germany.

2018-02-16 22:43:56 UTC  

yeah, 3 years training and physical and mental tests to before you can even begin training

2018-02-16 22:43:58 UTC  

One professor from Germany stated there exists a "right to technology" in Germany that grants arriving refugees iPhones, though he specialized in economics so that may prove unreliable.

2018-02-16 22:44:17 UTC  

Nope.

2018-02-16 22:44:23 UTC  
2018-02-16 22:44:32 UTC  

Sure as fuck not what I've heard from German gun owners.

2018-02-16 22:44:37 UTC  

right to technology...?

2018-02-16 22:44:49 UTC  

3 years was police 😉

2018-02-16 22:44:59 UTC  

You meant that "Nope" for me, or Falko?

2018-02-16 22:45:12 UTC  

I think that should be obvious.

2018-02-16 22:45:27 UTC  

Me, then.

2018-02-16 22:45:35 UTC  

...No

2018-02-16 22:45:48 UTC  

"Common sense is not so common." 🤷🏽

2018-02-16 22:47:26 UTC  

It seems obvious to me that a right *to* technology (esp. an iPhone) seems ridiculous. :/

2018-02-16 22:49:32 UTC  

In terms of being available for purchase, sure, but not for it to just be handed to you. And even then, that should have some limitations.
Obviously, private citizens shouldn't be allowed to purchase nuclear weapons.

2018-02-16 22:50:08 UTC  

Yes, availability & ability to purchase one make sense.

2018-02-16 22:50:32 UTC  

(I apologize; English is not my first language.)

2018-02-16 22:52:20 UTC  

recreational gun ownership is the same as "hunter" for me... basically the same regulations for both

2018-02-16 22:52:44 UTC  

You're moving goal posts...

2018-02-16 22:52:52 UTC  

not really

2018-02-16 22:52:59 UTC  

And @Miss Direction IIRC it's an EU human right to have access to the internet

2018-02-16 22:53:22 UTC  

Why?

2018-02-16 22:53:45 UTC  

I just think it's more complicated than that, especially in the United States. There are plenty of areas in the US where it is not uncommon to be miles away from the nearest telephone pole, much less being within a reasonable response time to a police station or sheriff's office.

2018-02-16 22:53:50 UTC  

Because most north/west EU countries have basically fully digitized their government communication

2018-02-16 22:54:18 UTC  

hunter/sportsschiessen: heavily regulated where you are allowed to use your guns, what guns you can use and even how you can use your guns.

2018-02-16 22:54:26 UTC  

And in a lot of the major cities, there *is* very strict gun control, if not outright bans.

2018-02-16 22:54:44 UTC  

I depart. Good luck, all.

2018-02-16 22:55:22 UTC  

Yes, but you at first just said hunter. When I pointed out that isn't true, you suddenly changed that to hunter 'also means recreational shooting'

2018-02-16 22:56:49 UTC  

to me hunting is recreational shooting

2018-02-16 22:57:07 UTC  

but you are right that there IS a destinction in the law

2018-02-16 23:30:27 UTC  

Here is a problem, in the us, with at least some instances. There are several laws already in place that are not enforced as well as the should be. Yet the solution proposed is to add more to it? In Florida, it seems literally everyone knew this was a very real possibility with this kid
The FBI even knew but couldn't get him on anything. Banning assault weapons doesn't really fix it. Or more accurately is like having a hammer and treating everything like a nail. Why ban all cars, for example, when you knew a person was very likely going to use a car to commit a terror act. Why not find where they should have been able get them, and add a small piece of legislation there, rather than punish all the law abiding companies and citizens for the action of a minority.

2018-02-16 23:31:58 UTC  

why should anyone give a sliver of their rights up to stopgap something that may or may not do anything long term?

2018-02-16 23:32:51 UTC  

In the grand scheme of things, you cannot reasonably stop people who lose their shit from doing anything.

2018-02-16 23:33:05 UTC  

You ban guns and they run around with cars or swords or make explosives

2018-02-16 23:33:12 UTC  

we cannot un-learn these things