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i did not find what the initial charges where, though
I really think that's why they're taking so long to sentence him
also i think incitement to violence is a crime in any western country, even America
Saying "I hate negro's" is protected
Saying "Lets burn all the negro's alive and rape their wamen" is incitement to violence
they got him on a law that can be used against EVERYONE for saying ANYTHING on the internet
They're not sure exactly how to use it punitively.
jayred, that example is basically the german hate speech law 😄
Have there been instances of people being charged solely with this before?
well yes, but thats incitement to violence, its actively trying to use speech to get action against people
as opposed to using speech to challenge/critique an idea
i think so, yes
but in any case, its a ridiculous law the brits used to make an example of him
It's a massive blow to free speech.
The concept, not the right. They don't expressly have the right.
4 blows in one week if you also consider Lauren Southern, Britney Pettibone and that Generation Identity guy, Martin Selner?, being banned from entering UK
the law is so vague that it basically shuts down free speech via the internet in the uk
Yeah, all of that happening at once, it's REALLY kind of 1984esque
i mean... i was not joking when i said that they can convict you for saying that you dont like tea
That does seem pretty outrageous.
yeah, so its basically a law that nullifies the concept of free speech
Its become "You can say what you want as long as we agree"
That's why Free Speech HAS to include hate speech.
Maybe its britains form of 4D chess?
They're doing this to draw massive attention so the laws get removed?
Oh, yeah. I saw it. I was very offended by your dislike of tea.
I took it
VERY
personally.
Okay: Three things. 1. Define 4D. 2. Define the rules to 4D chess. 3. No.
well Free speech has to include hate speech for it to be free speech
saying "I love people that do nice things for other people" doesn't need protection, its opinions and statements people dislike that need protecting
i personally think that southern is stupid... sellner... well... he is a eu citizen... pettibone - don't know her really...
I think Southern is too enthusiastic for journalism.
but preventing them from entering the country was... highly suspect...
She's a journalist to the extent that she logs the events that she witnesses and partakes in, AKA commits them to an open journal.
anyone who show up in a identity europa shirt in st. pauli is stupid - even if it not for a antifa protest 😄
and 4D chess, playing the people against themselves, use their problem so the extent people think of a good fix so they'll think they brought the idea of a fix, and thus be blameless after you said "You people have a good idea, we'll make it happen"
Making the people like you for fixing the issue and giving the opposition a bad image (removing abuse of power laws after everyone knows they exist)
problem with that is that you first have to implement the law...
The one problem with that
the UK doesn't have a decent party.
basically
1. Punish a person with the law, showing everyone the law is bad
2. say "See, this law is bad, lets remove it"
3. Remove the law and be the hero
4. ???
5. Profit
Except maybe Ukip but they're relegated to the margins.
y'all need a Trump
wheres that british billionaire from "The apprentice"? 😛
have him be PM